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Aluminum or Paper Cone ?


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Hey my fellow basses wussup yawl how is everyone got much luv cause you all for sure play bass i need ur help or point of view cause as buying a Ibanez BtB i will need a good amp and cabinet Im buying them all from sameash so i can get a chance to try it out but which one iether Aluminum or paper cone do tell me your opinions or maybe some facts and ima be sure to holla back 1 ur boi from philly God bless lata web page
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yo yo yo paper cones be the way to go dig it they's betta than aluminum

 

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from what i've heard on the forum, seen in real life, and learned from mechanics of materials, paper is less likely to crack from fatigue.

 

other than that, it's up to you.

 

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Originally posted by jeremy c:

How come after all these years of technological advances we only have two choices?

Lately I've been researching topics in nanotechnology for a friend/screenwriter and happend to come upon a few articles relating to kevlar. Skipping the details which you can read HERE and HERE among other places, the experts are working on more durable fibers that aren't succeptible to short-term degradation to things like UV radiation. I suspect when this happens you'll see a gradual shift in speaker technology to kevlar-woven speakers, among many other things.

 

The other reason is that there's more paper around, especially with current recycling efforts, to warrant continued manufacturing of paper-based products, at least in this century.

 

Also, from my experience with rehearsal studios using Hartke equipment (Larry's equipment has a big market presence in NJ) the aluminum 10s seem to last years while the aluminum 15s burn out after a few hours of serious playing (we also have a lot of metal bands here) by the locals. Since he also offers paper-coned 15s now, I'm told by at least one studio that they blow less 15s now than they used to.

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Originally posted by wraub:

Never underestimate the power of Hemp. Seriously.

What a wonderful world this would become if hemp could be processed into an alternate fuel for transportation. :D
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Originally posted by Fred the bass player:

Originally posted by wraub:

Never underestimate the power of Hemp. Seriously.

What a wonderful world this would become if hemp could be processed into an alternate fuel for transportation. :D
Well, as the technology to do so is readily available, perhaps that should read, "What a wonderful world this would become if hemp

would be processed into an alternate fuel for transportation."

 

Fuel from Biomass, along with other sustainable, sensible energy choices could help end domestic reliance on imported pollutants. :wave:

 

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Ah, fond memories of Cypress Hill's eulogy on the benefits of the hemp plant...

 

Paper is still the best option for most high power handling speaker cones. I've recently been reading up on all this stuff so I'll try and elucidate on this, but fundamentally there is no perfect speaker cone: Optimum bass response comes from a rigid heavy cone; optimum midrange and high frequency response comes from a flexible lightweight cone.

 

To quote from the Audio and Hi-Fi Handbook: "Hard impregnated or filled pressed calendered papers are used when loudness efficiency and apparent high frequency response are important..." - not unlike the blue cones in Ashdown cabs.

 

"...A diaphragm of 250mm diameter made from 0.1mm thick aluminium alloy with a total mass of 40g will show a 'ruler' level response up to approximately 2kHz when multiple resonances occur. These are extremely narrow band (in some cases only 1 or 2 Hz wide) with an amplitude of anything up to 40 dB and an effective Q of several hundred. Putting a low pass filter cutting very sharply at, say, 1 kHz does not eliminate shock excitation of these resonances at low frequencies and the result is a 'tinny' sound." - that'll be Hartke then.

 

There's some good info on EA's website about this - there's a lot more to paper than you'd think...

 

Alex

 

P.S. I'm glad the topic heading stated the question clearly, because I'm clearly not down with da boiz - it's all greek to me...

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