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Hey,

 

I tried one of these in a music shop the other day. Now I know very little when it comes to upright basses let alone EUB's. I've played a few uprights but never had lessons so I have a feel for UB's but definately a very bad technique and little understanding of how to play one properly.

 

Personally it felt alot easier to play than any upright I have played (not many but a couple).

The tone was nice but I ran it through a boss eq pedal to get a better sound. My main concern was the lack in volume. The sales guy had the 60w amp cranked to 10 but it was no louder than a 10w amp. I am alittle worried about this but if I can get an affordable eq that will bost the volume I wouldn't hesitate to buy this bass but here was also a hiss coming from the bass. Noisy pickups..... Is there a way around this or would I be throwing away good money after bad?

 

I like the idea of these basses because 1) They're cheap (I know not necesarilly a good thing) 2) Played well for me 3) Easily transportable

 

Has anybody had any experience with these EUB's. Are they a decent beginner/performance bass?

 

Palatino EUB

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I don't know about the EUB from Palatino, but their URB is really not that great.

 

As far as the playability goes, any bass with the proper strings and a nice cut to the bridge and a good fingerboard profile will play well.

 

When you purchase an URB, there are many factors that effect the life of the instrument. When a company uses substandard materials, eventually the bass will self destruct.

 

I couldn't get the site to work, so I don't know about what you found. In general there is no free lunch, ya get what ya pay for, caveat emptor and all those other cliches.

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I have a Under-Bridge-Foot Piezo pickup that I had got for making my EUB that I never got around to do... Now I see these, for about what it would have costed to make mine, would it be worth it buy on of these, use my pickup and maybe a OBP-1 or 2 band Bartolini preamp?

 

Datsame, how was the tone of the bass without any amplifcation? Thats the real test. If it sounds good unplugged, then it will sound good amplified (if the electronics are decent).

 

Where can I get them anyway? I'm assuming Sam Ash or GC wouldn't be carrying these... and I would hate to mail order it...at least without a money back guarantee.

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Thanks zeronyne :thu:

 

I'm from Australia so I'm not really sure where you would get them in the US.

 

The tone unplugged was actually pretty good and loud enough to play for practice by yourself. The body is supposedly chambered. So I'd say thats where it gets its unplugged volume from.

 

I've just been gassing for an URB/EUB since I got back from China/Japan. Our first gig there was no amp for my electric so we had to borrow an URB from the conservatorium and play with a lapel mic stuffed in the f hole and go through the house PA. It worked and it was so much fun. Nice big blood blister on my right hand finger for my troubles though but it was worth it.

 

Dave: I wish I could afford a proper URB but funds after the Japan tour have left me a little dry, and in debt. So I'm looking for something to learn on but not necesarily going to last 10 years. Just something I can get started on and afford a few lessons with, then sell it (if I'm lucky) and pick up a decent URB. Would something along the lines of an EUB be a good start or should I hold out and spend a wad of cash on a decent URB?

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I'm seriously considering buying one of these.

 

They are bow-able right?

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I guess I'm being the URB-Nazi today.

 

In general, I believe if a bass feels right to you, you could buy it. Of course, if you have little experience on the URB, you may not know what "right" is.

 

And, of course, I should take into consideration the proposed use of the bass. If you aren't going to study bow technique that changes a lot of things.

 

There is just so much junk foisted on the unsuspecting public these days, and as long as there is a market, people will keep making it.

 

Heck, for the price they are asking for this, how could you go wrong? If you buy it, play on it for a few days and store it in the closet, you didn't steal your baby's milk to get it.

 

And if it encourages you to enter the world of URB playing, even better.

 

I can't speak to the Australian market for "decent" uprights; I understand y'all pay a premium for nearly everything. Here, I know of a couple of sources in the $2500 range that are really nice (although I'll bet that price jumps a grand in the next couple of years.)

 

Now, for the blister: did you get it because you had to pull very hard to hear the bass, or did you get it because of stiff strings and high action?

 

You can fix each of these problems, but you should analyze why you blistered.

 

Also, my pizz callous is on the second knuckle of my index finger. I generally pizz with the finger from tip to large knuckle. If I have to go fast, I just stiffen my finger and make hand circles.

 

I saw a concert with one of my old orchestra stand partners (one who was male when I knew him) and she kept biting her fingers and spitting something out. So I asked her what it was, and she showed me a nasty popped blister...evidently from playing a high energy gig while getting blasted. This from someone with 10 years experience and a master's degree in bass...

 

So anything's possible, I guess.

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IMHO the Palatino's are not very good EUBs. If, like you said you just want something to have for a little while and get the feel for it, then maybe it would be alright.

 

But you would probably be better off getting an entry level upright that you can have set up properly and that would get you a lot farther than playing on a Palatino or some other similar level EUB. I just don't feel you would be giving yourself a good start on the instrument. URB is a difficult instrument to begin with and takes a lot of persistence and stamina. You might be doing yourself a disservice by starting out on an inferior instrument that might eventually turn you off; just my 2cents

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I think the blister may have come from a combination of bad tchnique and the need to play louder to hear myself. I was playing with the tips of my fingers like I would play electric but turned a little so it wasn't uncomfortable. Then all I did was dig in like it was the cake from my first birthday. Messy, but oooohh so much fun.

 

Thanks guys for your help. If you have more keep it coming. Its great.

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Originally posted by abaguer:

IMHO the Palatino's are not very good EUBs. If, like you said you just want something to have for a little while and get the feel for it, then maybe it would be alright.

 

But you would probably be better off getting an entry level upright that you can have set up properly and that would get you a lot farther than playing on a Palatino or some other similar level EUB. I just don't feel you would be giving yourself a good start on the instrument. URB is a difficult instrument to begin with and takes a lot of persistence and stamina. You might be doing yourself a disservice by starting out on an inferior instrument that might eventually turn you off; just my 2cents

My Bass teacher said pretty much the same thing. He thinks that anything by palatino is crap, but it seemed like a resonable price for an EUB.

 

He recommened I get a Shen & Christopher bass from one of the luthiers in my area. He said for about $1200 I can get a pretty good upright bass.

 

I think I'm gonna take his advice and try one of these out.

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