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I'm playing a Cruise/Casino Ship gig this New Years Eve. The Band will be on one deck, but we will be supplying the music a deck below, as well. This is a first for the ship, as well as me.

 

Drums and vocals and guitar will be piped thru the PA, but I'm on my own for support (not enough channels, they say).

 

It's about a 20 foot drop (50 foot of speaker cord, minimum) from one deck level to the other.

 

Question? - Should I run a line level out of my Demeter Pre to another amp below, or can I run an extension cab on its own? (That's a long way to run a speaker cord...?)

 

We have a sound check on the 30th, but I'd rather be more prepared than not.

 

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Jim

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Gotta love these last minute changes by the Cruise Director :rolleyes:

 

A mixer would be nice, but I don't know if one's available.

 

Worse comes to worse - I'll run the QSC in stereo and at least have some control over volume.

 

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The angry officers, I'd imagine. They'll probably dispense wonderfully descriptive advice like "It's too loud" or "It sounds like s**t." :D

 

I'd just get a little two or four channel mixer to plug into their board...mix your bass plus whatever else is going into that channel, and then send a mic-level feed into the main board. You might have to watch the levels to make sure you're not clipping the channel on the main mixer, but it should work.

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A mixer sounds like a good idea, but -

 

I'm just a hired hand on this gig, the band is based out of NYC. I work for them when they come down to S.FLA. We'll be using what the ship has on hand (PA wise), and I'd rather not spend the $$$ for one night. Maybe I can borrow one?

 

The sound will be run by the same person that runs the shows in the Main Ballroom, so there will be someone watching levels.

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Now we are getting more info.

 

OK, forget the mixer.

 

If it were me, I wouldn't do anything at all.

If the drums, guitar and vocals are miked, your bass amp will be picked up by those mikes.

 

The bass will be in the PA whether you want it there or not. And if there is not enough bass, move your bass speaker closer to the drum set or the guitar amp.

 

I wouldn't worry about it.

Maybe I'm getting crusty in my old age, but:

 

1) if there aren't enough channels in the pa to include the bass, that is their problem, not yours.

 

How many channels is the drummer getting?

 

You didn't mention a keyboard. Is there one and is the keyboard going stereo and using two channels?

 

2) are you doing heavy dance material? or is it standards/swing music? If it is the latter, not much bass is really required. If you had an amp downstairs they'd probably turn it way down anyway.

 

3) if you want a speaker downstairs, you probably could borrow a 50 foot speaker cable from someone, a lot of people who have PA's have long cables. Or you could borrow my wireless and send your signal to an amp on the other deck. But I'm not sure if the wireless would transmit through the metal walls that ships have. Otherwise I would mail it to you.

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Originally posted by jeremy c:

The bass will be in the PA whether you want it there or not. And if there is not enough bass, move your bass speaker closer to the drum set or the guitar amp.

 

If there aren't enough channels in the pa to include the bass, that is their problem, not yours.

That was exactly my point to the Leader when he called me last night. Furthermore, we will be on an open deck, as is the deck below - the bass should travel well, I would think.

 

At most, I think I will bring a long speaker cord and a cab. I doubt I will need it, but it should pacify the Cruise Director. We aren't the main act that night. They have a lavish review/show in the Main Ballroom ("Canned Music" :eek: ) - we are an 'alternative' to the Show.

 

I guess I really need to check out what's what beforehand. No News (surprises) is Good News.

 

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Just a thought. How about using a DI or other preamp out to a wireless transmitter and plugging the receiver into the PA on the deck below? I wouldn't trust a wire that long to hold up. But I'd also make sure the batteries were fresh and replaced every 3-4 hours.

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