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What is singlecut, set-neck design??

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Single-cut seems to be the latest rage.

Who came up with it first?

 

I haven't played one yet, but they look ugly to me. :freak:

 

The other one looks nice, does it come in blue? ;)

 

I'm not in the market for anymore basses now, but then again I say that every few months and then I buy another one.

 

p.s. My mom didn't play bass. And she barely knew what one was. But I loved her anyway. :thu:

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Probably the first time I saw single cut was from Fodera maybe 6 years ago (or 4 anyway), but I wasn't paying attention to luthier moves that often before then. I consider them neither ugly or beautiful. Evidently some people feel they perform a useful function, while maybe others build them because they think it's trendy.

 

Actually, I see SET NECK becoming a trend now ; }

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I think the single cut is as popular as it is because it does, on some basses, seem to offer a better balance, and does add a different design into the average luthiers stable that is not appreciably harder to build, as well as offering a "familiar" look.

 

I also think they look off-putting to me.

I have yet to see one that, materials and craftmanship aside, looks like something I would consider putting $2-3000 or more into.

Just not for me appearance wise, but, of course, it's all in the playing.

 

As for first: I'd guess Fodera or, maybe, Lawrence.

 

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I'd guess vibrational control of the bassy bout and its coupleing to that side of the neck are cited more than physical balance. I prefer Dingwall's use of different densities of wood for each bout for tone/sustain optimizing, and a long horn for balance, as this can keep easier keep the weight down.

 

But if I was in a buying mood and I played a single cut that seemed incredible I would not let those things stop me.

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Agreed.

I also prefer a longer horn, within reason, for balance, combined with judicious strap-knob placement.

I have heard some builders speak of vibrational coupling in singlecuts, but this seems like, in most cases, too little to offer much in the way of real tonal benefit. Like wood body caps- Most tops that most luthiers put on their instruments don't do anything but look spiffy, yet a lot of those luthiers are content to tell you about the magical tone properties of that <1/4 inch of walnut or whatever.

Neck vibration and body vibration are as likely to counter-act each other as complement, depending on the design, IMO.

 

Besides, it's only a matter of time before Gibson sues all other singlecuts off the planet, right?

 

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The info on Larkin is interesting - lives in Ireland, works on his own.

 

I agree that the singlecut doesn't do it for me visually and since I usually like smaller bodies, they aren't where I'm headed. In fairness, I'd like to try a standard and a singlecut from the same luthier (with similar woods/electronics) to see what differences show up.

 

You have again reminded me of RobT. He was enamoured of a Stambaugh singlecut.

 

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The single-cut design is (aesthetically) growing on me. Those basses pictured strike me as rather beautiful, and I would love to try one of those, or a similiar design. Though larger and/or heavier bodies do cause the shoulder to ache, there does seem to be a pleasant tone difference, that compares favorably to smaller bodied instruments that I've used. All things being equal, I feel that a more massive body like the ones employed in those single-cut designs would PROBABLY sound better to me. I'm sure it's a subtle difference, but it seems like the more massive basses have a kind of punch that isn't as pronounced in lighter-bodied single-cut instruments, from what I've heard in sound samples, etc. I've not had the opportunity to compare myself, and even if I did, I probably wouldn't be able to do a GOOD comparison, as Tom suggested, between similarly designed basses that only differ in the body dimensions/configuration.

 

If someone else here does get that opportunity, I'd love to hear his/her impressions and, dare I dream it, some sound clips! :)

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Carey Nordstrand has been building set neck single cut basses for a while now. (Who's that? Do a search for "Fish o' Luv".)

 

Single cuts aren't my thing aesthetically.

 

Chris Stambaugh has made some interesting observations about single cut basses.

 

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