punk and ska

[jimbojones]

I am a pretty well- rounded listener when it comes to music, but the two types of music I am most unfamiliar with are punk and ska. I am interested in the older and early british type of ska, not stuff like the mighty mighty bostones. When I mean punk I mean older hardcore stuff like crass and oi. All I am asking for are some reccomended band names and albums or subgenres.

 

I guess you could say I am interestd in early traditional skinhead music. I AM NOT A NEO- NAZI SKINHEAD (sorry, just had to let that out)

 

peace out!

 

- James

[Mr. Phil]

Maybe some Agnostic Front...

[J.A.]

here's my recommendations-

early hardcore- minor threat, bad brains, bad religion (good place to start is called 80-85, great early stuff)

 

modern hardcore- 1. refused (excellent swedish politucal hardcore, the album 'the shape of punk to come' is phenomenal!) 2. one king down (bloodlust revenge e.p. good straitedge vegan metalcore) 3. earth crisis (slither is a good cd.)

 

good punk- 1. subhumans ( 'the day the country died' is a good starting point- they progresses from there totally amazing shit! you won't regret it) 2. anti-flag ('die for the government' is a classic, their new stuff isn't good but this one features some excellent bass and snotty juvenile political vox) 3. social distortion ('mommy's little monster' is fast and catchy and where s.d. kicked it off.) 4. rancid- (my fave is 'life won't wait' mik of punk, ska, and some other bits. 'let's go' is excellent too. their bassplayer, one of jeremyc's old students is great, one of punk's best)

 

ska- 1.culture shock (not well known, same singer as subhumans- political punk-ska-reggae that holds up still today. 'onwards and upwards' is their best. they have another cd thats damn good. 2. operation ivy (youve probably heard of them same singer and bassist as rancid, their cd 'energy will keep your ass skanking for the next 10 years. their cd 'unreleased energy' is good too.

 

that's my input. believe me, these bands are worth a try.

[jeremy c]

Go back to history of Ska.

 

Start with the Skatalites.

 

Then hit the two-tone movement:

The English Beat

The Specials---one of my personal favorites.

Selector

Madness

 

And if you want early punk,

The CBGB's scene (New York):

The New York Dolls

Television

The Ramones

England:

The Sex Pistols

The Clash

Los Angeles:

Fear

The Minutemen

San Francisco:

The Dead Kennedys

Ann Arbor, Michigan:

The Stooges (later became known as Iggy Pop)

 

others will pop in a give you a few more names.

[BigKahuna855]

oh boy! this should be a fun topic

 

ok the first band i will recommend to everyone on the forum to check out. the band is Alkaline Trio. they aren't that talented musically, but if you like lyrics, there is no better band. very talented lyricists.

 

other punk bands that i listen to are:

NOFX

MXPX(the only punk band i have ever seen that has a fingerstyle bassist)

GOB

Tsunami Bomb

Switchblade Kittens(thios band is all bassists and a drummer, sounds pretty damn cool)

The Distillers

The Living End(one of my favorite bands ever, i would suggest this band to everyone also)

From Autumn To Ashes

Dropkick Murphys

Senses Fail

Avenged Sevenfold

Weezer

 

thats my list.

I might add more later.

[LLroomtempJ]

OT...but i'm interning for a civil company called skanska...or better written:

 

ska n ska

 

jason

[Bass_god_offspring]

SKA-

Reel big Fish (a great SKA band)

Suburban Legends ( an amazing band from Souther California)

Punk-

the Smiths ( i dunno if everyone considers them punk, but i do)

Bad Religion

Anti-flag ( i don't listen to em much, but they are really "hate the government and F*ck the USA)

 

if you wanna learn about punk music, and Barnes & Noble there is a book called "PUNK" and it gives a long history, and a lot of iterviews, pics, and what have you.

 

[sputnik 5]

2-tone and 3rd wave ska:

-Specials

-Madness

-Body Snatchers

-Toasters

-Hepcat

-Slackers

-Pietasters

-Skatalites

-Let's Go Bowling

-Catch 22 (you must check out their album Keasbey Nights)

-Heptones

-Fishbone (among many other things, they play some ska)

-Any band that was on the Moon Ska record label

[Afro_Man]

Go and find a moon ska taster cd, they've got about 20 tracks on them from a selection of their bands, its good stuff, there is a few out, i think they're usually blue and yellow.

Nic

[EddiePlaysBass]

Originally posted by jeremyc:

The Minutemen

GREAT bass player by the way I can't give you my two cents worth, most of the bands I was gonna mention have been covered You guys are too good !!

[73 P Bass]

Let's not forget Black Flag, Suicidal Tendencies, and my fav, Husker Du.

A newer band to check (who totally kick ass)is The Drop Kick Murphy's,

 

BGO- The Smith were great but they are anything but punk. Johnny Marr, and Morrisey were inspired to sixties female pop singers. Andy Rourke wields one mean pick against that '63 P-Bass though.

 

Jeremy- How could you omit MC5?

[Quinn]

One more early hardcore Punk band you might want to check out - Circle Jerks!

 

Their debut album "Group Sex" is an all-time classic and really fun to listen to.

[jeremy c]

Well, even though I am a big MC5 fan, I don't really consider what they did to be punk.

 

They may have been inspirational to a future generation of punk musicians, but at the time (1968) they seemed to me to be just one incredible rock band.

 

Music hadn't splintered into a million categories yet.

 

The Stooges, on the other hand, did seem to be creating a new category as they developed and Iggy's stage antics in 1969 sure were copied by others.

[moot]

Let's not forget Black Flag. . .

- 73 P Bass

 

You're on it 73 P.

Must remember:

[moot]

ooooppps.

Anyway - I like the new sludge punk guys. The names amuse while the music, on the other hand, just annoys.

 

Kleinfelter - The Runz - Satans Almighty Penis

[J.A.]

Originally posted by Quinn:

One more early hardcore Punk band you might want to check out - Circle Jerks!

 

Their debut album "Group Sex" is an all-time classic and really fun to listen to.

'gig' is a liev album by the ircle jerks that is damn good too.

[Sean Eldon]

we tour with the suburban legends. its coreographed. ska, the musical.

 

its not really ska, but it sort of is, but check out the RxBandits for some great songs/musicianship/singing. The last album, "The Resignation" would be the best place to start.

 

punkrock...go with 80's american underground. fugazi, the minutemen, mission of burma, husker du, black flag, etc.

[jimbojones]

I've heard some oi that was pretty good, but I don't remember who. Any recomendations?

[RHINO_ROB]

oi: the 4 skins are pretty good.

there is a good comp album of italian oi bands i believe it was called "yo siempo oi" the spelling might be off as i don't speak italian.

 

ska:skankin' pickle's skafunkrastapunk album is good. it is humorous .

the business they do a cool cover of day-o.

 

hardcore/punk: butt trumpet's primitive enema is very (*#& funny.

 

you can't go wrong with the sub humans or dead kennedys. the exploited is pretty good harder punk stuff. there are a couple of good punk compilations for older punk that i recommend.

burning ambitions: a history of punk is good but you have to get it on the double vinyl set. they reissued it on cd but it is missing like 8 of the songs. also the first punk and disorderly album is good.

 

i am sorry i cannot remember any more oi bands. i never really got to much into that genre but i will ask some of my old friends for recommendations

[BigKahuna855]

oi scouts

GWAR

Atreyu

[PickPunk]

The Casualties are a great hardcore/oi band, they even have a song called the oi song . I'm trying to think of any bands that haven't been mentioned yet.

 

There's AFI, you may have heard of them, i'm not sure what you could really call them genre wise, they don't really fall into one specific category but i guess they're sort of a mixture of metal, punk, hardcore and goth, on top of that they have beautifully poetic lyrics and some great musicianship. They're not old school but they are very good, one of my favourites.

 

DOA are a great british (i think) band, i don't listen to them that much but one song that i really like by them is World War 3. The only other DOA song i know is I Am Canadian, which is quite comical, part of the song goes like this "I Am Canadian, We're Too Cool for uncle sam, infact, we're freezing our asses off!" of course you can appreciate that song much more if you're a canadian .

 

DRI are an awesome hardcore band

 

For another subgenre of punk (namely Psychobilly) you should check out Tiger Army, for those who don't know, psychobilly is punk mixed with rockabilly, really cool music, and psychobilly bassists are almost always URB players. Another good psychobilly band are Nekromantix

 

I can't believe noone's mentioned SUBLIME!! awesome ska form the 90's!

 

Also for older punk try The Vandals.

 

A cool hardcore chick band are The Lunachicks, i get the feeling from their lyrics that they all hate men, but its jolly good music anyway. Another good chick punk band is Fabulous Disaster.

 

And how could i forget Pennywise! AWESOME political punk.

 

well thats all the bands i can think of that havent been mentioned

 

peace

[Mr. Phil]

My reccodmendation for ska:

 

OTIS REEM.

 

I've only heard one song from them, and haven't been able to find any other material on them.

 

IF you can find any, the bass playing is outstanding.

[BenLoy]

FEAR!!!

[Tom Capasso]

I'm not expert in either of these musical forms, but they do have a knack for interesting band names.

 

From the ska side, I like SAVE FERRIS, which also has a neat name (we love that movie in my house).

 

Tom

[DigiVoices]

I don't think anyone mentioned Fugazi. You can't leave these guys out!

[Sean Eldon]

I don't think anyone mentioned Fugazi. You can't leave these guys out!

 

Originally posted by Sean Eldon:

punkrock...go with 80's american underground. fugazi, the minutemen, mission of burma, husker du, black flag, etc.

[Jimbroni]

I'm surprised no one mentioned Desmond Decker for Ska.