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Powered Cabs Revisited


SteveC

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I took a look at old threads on this topic, and while it was discussed, I never saw where anyone was actually USING a powered cab of some kind instead of a traditional bass rig.

 

I bring this up again because of my experience with the SansAmp BDDI this weekend. I used only that for a preamp and ran it into a Stewart World 12. power amp and then to a Bergantino HT112 cab.

 

I was looking at a Mackie SRM 450 powered speaker as an alternative to what I now have. It is a 12" 300 watt LF driver and a 1" horn 100 watt HF driver. All in a handy little 60 pound package.

 

Is anyone using a non-traditional rig? If so, what are your thoughts? How is it working for you?

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Haven't seen anyone playing through a powered cab around here. Last one I saw was me, actually. Used to have a Peavey 2-10 cab with power amp built it. Cool cabinet, wish I hadn't sold it. Don't know if they were built in any significant number, and that was ten or more years ago. . . I think BassNW has one for sale in its "Used Amps" section.

 

You probably don't see people using powered bass cabs these days for the simple fact that there aren't many, if any, companies making 'em. Back when, there was the Acoustic 360, Ampeg's SBT, the Sunn Orion, and Fender's Super Showman setups . . . But, I can't offhand think of anybody who's building a dedicated powered cab for bass nowdays.

 

BTW, the Mackie cab you mentioned -- is it intended for bass, or more of a "Sound Reinforcement" cab?

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The Mackie is a SR cab. Don't know that anyone makes a bass specific powered cab. There's an idea for someone.

 

My thinking is - we play through PA systems all the time. They are not "bass specific" at all. Why not just play through that kind of cab all the time?

 

The powered part just reduces the amount of gear to haul around.

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The powered part just makes it too heavy to carry!

 

The acme cabs seem to be full range (based only on their spec's). A keyboard amp would be more flexible than a powered speaker...

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I recently saw an ad for G-audio , their active bass speaker incorporates a 300 watt power amp made by Acoustic Image into a 410 cab. They say it's "Designed specifically for

Fretless Bass" but I don't know if there's any reason why it might not work for fretted as well.

 

There have been rumors about Accugroove having something in the works. Perhaps Whappo can enlighten us as to the availability of these things.

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One of the Mods on HCBF and Ebassist named JazzAd uses a set of powered Behringer speakers with a Sansamp BDDI on the front end and is pretty happy with them.

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Originally posted by SteveC:

lug - I looked at the Behringer site and didn't find any powered cabs. If you could find out more info I'd appreciate it.

He's in France so maybe they don't sell them here?

 

Here's a pic of them, anyway.

 

http://pageperso.aol.fr/JAZZAD2/Images/Rig/Behringer/bigrig.jpg

 

I think he said he tried the mackies and liked them but they were cost prohibited in France.

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I play my ADA MB-1 preamp through a Bose PAS w/ 2 sub modules. The total weight of the Bose is about 100 pounds, but it's 3 loads of no more than 40 pounds each, pretty manageable. In smaller venues it works as a PA, too. The keyboard player and I used it for our on-stage monitor the other night in a big club, too. Pricey, but very flexible and worth the money overall.
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yea those Bose PAS systems are really nice, if you wanna shell out 2 grand.

 

I wouldn't :D

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I haven't heard or tried the Bose thing with bass. I did hear a keyboard through one at GC and it was really nice. If a bass sounded that good............but $2,200 is pretty steep.

 

It does get the sound "up" vertically for more equal dispersion. I'm not convinced about 2 sub boxes - even though they are small. I'd be back to hauing a lot of gear which is what I don't want.

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Originally posted by SteveC:

lug - I looked at the Behringer site and didn't find any powered cabs. If you could find out more info I'd appreciate it.

Talked to the guy and he says they are B300 series. Here's a link to one for sale, price looks very good.

 

http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHB300

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Originally posted by Sweet Willie:

AccuGroove has been working on a powered Tri-110 for Steve Lawson. I think he has maybe played the prototype ... Whappo or Steve, care to comment?

It's still being perfected... Unfortunately, the knock on effect of me signing on as an endorsing artist is that AccuGrooves orders have gone through the roof... (yeah, riiiight....) - anyway, they are hugely busy right now, for v. good reason, so I'm using my passive 110s with a QSC poweramp, but can't wait to get the powered 110s - they'll be amazing...

 

I've been touring these last few days with Muriel Anderson - www.murielanderson.com - and running my bass, her voice and two lines off her guitar through my set-up (2x accugroove Tri 110, QSC PLX-1602, Mackie 1404-VLZ-Pro desk, usual looping and processing toys...), and it all sounded amazing - there's no other bass system I've ever used or even heard that could have done this job. Not one. These cabs are outstanding.

 

Steve

www.stevelawson.net

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The reason that it is taking a while for Steve's Signature Powered Cabs is that his playing deserves only the very best. Therefore, are pulling out all the stops to create a cabinet that can keep up with his amazing grooves. It will be worth the wait!

 

Mark

AccuGroove.com

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I have looked at the Tech 21 amps with the "built in" SansAmp so to speak. I like the seperate box because then if I go somewhere with an amp or PA supplied, all I have to bring is that little box and my bass and I'll have my sound. That's why a powered PA/SR cab appeals to me.
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