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Tabs - If you're really "serious", don't waste your time. Use those ears to figure out the songs yourself, you'll be better off. Besides, there is no "best place" for tabs, they're all equally inaccurate. (Use the "search feature" on our page to find the above response written hundreds of different ways.)

 

Timing - buy a metronome and use the thing! (Use the "search feature" on our page to find the above response written hundreds of different ways.)

 

And, as we say here, "welcome to the forum!" Oh, and don't forget to use the "search feature."

 

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I agree with Scoot.

 

Also, you might want to get a beginner's book, maybe something by Ed Friedland (who started this forum and still posts here on occasion). Get a book that will help you learn standard notation, and doesn't use tab!

 

Welcome to the forum. :wave:

 

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Originally posted by At_Odds:

Use my ears? ...How would I start by using my ears?

Start with a beginner's book so you can get some basics down. If possible try to take some lessons.

 

In high school, when I first started playing, the guitarist in my band used to figure out basslines to songs and then teach them to me. The best thing that happened to me was when he said, "Listen, man, I can't spend so much time learning both the guitar and bass parts by ear. You've gotta do the bass parts on your own."

 

So I went after it, and you know what, it wasn't as tough as I'd thought it would be!

 

Some of our members are respected music educators and bass teachers, and hopefully some of them will chime in with more suggestions.

 

What kind of music do you listen to? Who are your favorite artists? We might be able to help you select a couple of songs by those musicians that would be good places to start.

 

Also, you could try searching using terms like "beginner," "beginning," "rookie," and "newbie."

 

Peace.

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Ah memories of my first days, 0-3-5... 0-3-6-5... 0-3-5-.. 3-0 all day long. :D

 

Are you at all confident in being able to hear a bassline in a song and then sing it back? Thats using your ears. Learning the relationships between notes is key. Also if your a REAL beginner don't use the same finger of your fretting hand to play all the notes, you need to develop strength in ALL your fingers.

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Also in my opinion its probably best to start off fingerstyle instead of using a pick as you need to develop dexterity and skin toughness in those floppy fingers.
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Originally posted by Sweet Willie:

Start with a beginner's book so you can get some basics down. If possible try to take some lessons.
Word. Your shopping list:

 

1 - tuner

2 - beginners book

3 - metronome (or a drum machine if you're feeling saucy

 

With these 3 items you'll develop your ear much quicker that you'll expect, learn common chord progressions, and learn basic bass patterns. After some effort developing these skills, you'll be able to start picking out basslines yourself instead of looking for tabs.

 

You're just gonna have to trust us on this really. Learning internet tabs will do nothing for you except teach you the notes of a song (which are wrong 80% of the time anyways.)

 

And finally, if you have the cash, get a GOOD teacher. Insist on a teacher who'll teach you how to play bass, not how to play songs.

 

Good luck

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Originally posted by Sweet Willie:

Originally posted by At_Odds:

Use my ears? ...How would I start by using my ears?

Start with a beginner's book so you can get some basics down. If possible try to take some lessons.

 

In high school, when I first started playing, the guitarist in my band used to figure out basslines to songs and then teach them to me. The best thing that happened to me was when he said, "Listen, man, I can't spend so much time learning both the guitar and bass parts by ear. You've gotta do the bass parts on your own."

 

So I went after it, and you know what, it wasn't as tough as I'd thought it would be!

 

Some of our members are respected music educators and bass teachers, and hopefully some of them will chime in with more suggestions.

 

What kind of music do you listen to? Who are your favorite artists? We might be able to help you select a couple of songs by those musicians that would be good places to start.

 

Also, you could try searching using terms like "beginner," "beginning," "rookie," and "newbie."

 

Peace.

--sweets

I like punk music. AFI, The Used, Against Me!, Good charlotte.

 

EDIT-Thanks alot guys, I didnt expect as many responses as Ive already gotten. :cool:

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Personally, here would be my two choices if I were you:

A cheapy metronome on this page and this book .

 

I know nothing about the book other than it has no tab and is written by our man Ed Friedland. That's all I really need to know to suggest it for you though.

 

Best of all, the two together will be under $30. Helluvadeal. Order now and we'll continue to answer your questions for free.

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Hi and welcome to the forum :wave: ,

 

I am also brand new to the bass, only been playing a month. I would like to suggest the following book: Mel Bay\'s Student Bass Method. The nice thing about this book is that it will give you a nice start to learning how to read standard notation and a basic introduction to your fretboard. It is a very simple book so you won't learn everything there is to know about the bass, but at least it will get you started. You should be reading standard notation in no time. Also try downloading the stand alone version of Ricci Adam\'s Music Trainers and Utilities 2.1. If you do, you will have access to "Note Trainer" which will allow you run a note recognition drill. Be sure to click on "Clef Select" to turn on the bass clef and also click on "Toggle Helper" so it will put a notation on the right telling you the names of the notes that fall on the lines and spaces. The main thing is to not get frustrated with yourself. Just be patient and dedicated to learning.

 

[EDIT]I guess as a newbie I shouldn't be offering advice, I just know what is working for me. I hope I am not stepping on anyone elses toes. Sorry.

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Originally posted by SideswipeRPG:

[EDIT]I guess as a newbie I shouldn't be offering advice, I just know what is working for me. I hope I am not stepping on anyone elses toes. Sorry.

Hey once you are registered to the forum, you now become an EXPERT. Hence the name: "Expert Forums from Gig, EQ, Keyboard, Surround Professional & Musicplayer"

 

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Originally posted by At_Odds:

Would a WITTNER MT50 MODEL work? I notice that I can get one of them for a mear $10.

Yes. It has the same fancy features of my metronome: a steady click. And like a kid with no butt, a metronome at $10 can't be beat.
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heya At_odds

 

As a new player to bass myself, 10 months, I can understand all your questions and frustrations you are probably having.

 

My first advise is to just have fun. Its the only way to keep your interest. Probably the best way to do that is to find at least one other person to play with. Guitarist, drummer, singer, etc. Doesn't matter. At least you will feel like you are producing music.

 

Bass tabs. I am going to vary from the others on this topic. I think they are good to use, until you have gained a respect of what a bass player can really do, then you will want to figure the stuff out for yourself. I am just getting to that point, myself. They have allowed me to have fun. Sure, they aren't always right, but you are in the ball park and that in itself will lead you to make adjustments to make it "more" right. After playing bass tabs for some time, I am now looking at them differently and want to start and make my own variations with them.

 

Something else that I suggest is going out and watching local bands. Pay attention to what the bass is doing up there and how it is being done. You will gain more respect for the instrument and it will also make you soo fired up to play, sometimes you will cut yourself short on the urinal just so that you can grab your bass.

 

Anyhow, good luck :P .

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Oh, and definately get a beginning bass book or software to learn how to hold and finger the bass currectly. That needs to be your first step for sure. Don't let bad habits begin your journey.

 

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Since you're begining you should use you're ears as much as possible-- I didn't in the beginning and it wasted much time for me.

 

It may seem hard but the secret is that your ears have an interpreter near by: your voice. If you can sing the part you're learning, then you can find it. There is a relationship between the attempt to sing and the ability to hear. To train your ear properly and quickly: sing everything-- especially if you "can't sing". You'll be surprised eventually your voice will sing the pitch you're trying to sing, and regardless of what you think of you're singing voice, you'll sing good enough for this purpose.

 

Also instead of tab, learn to read standard notation, it makes the very best music composed over the last number of centuries available to you, and when it comes to learn about analysis and theory, reading will help.

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Carol Kaye offers some excellent videos and instructional materials on her website. Check them out, a great deal.

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Welcome to the world of bass.

 

Just reviewing this morning and realized just how incredible "The Bass Player Book" is....Backbeat books.

 

They are affiliated with this site, so..."even better."

 

For something completely different, try "Bass Playing for Dummies" which has a lot of useful information.

 

Memorize these books, and you'll be a long way down the road.

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Hey At_Odds,

 

I might be able to stick my head in a music store tonight and take a look at those books. I'd not buy a book (or sheet music) without first seeing it and at least browsing through it. Thus, I'd not want to praise or condemn a book without glancing at it.

 

http://www.jazzbooks.com/scripts/search.asp

 

Try that and search for ear training to get an idea of what that guy has.

 

http://www.rongorow.com/

 

The above is a good ear training book too.

 

But ultimately ear training comes quickest from singing intervals and singing everything you play and everything you're trying to figure out. Nursery Rhymns, Christmas songs anything song you have so well memorized in your head you should be able to figure out. Just start hacking away and you might not need the book.

 

Also, do a search "So-Fa" singing or solfegio.

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as the name sez...

 

I'm in the same boat. Playing tuba as a kid for 7 years means I hava a bit easier time finding the bass line on my old cd's, but there's no substitute for practice, patience, and sore fingers (at first anyway). Love this forum. Gonna be here a lot :thu:

..of course I'm not in a band now. I have 32 more bass method books to go through first...
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