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Not wantin to get into any name callin or nothin like that just a little lively debate. I work in the drafting dept. in a construction co. There is a baby boomer in the next cubicle.He listens to the same beatles cd,over,over and over again.Drives me to want to piss on an electric fence.When I ask him to branch out he picks another beatles cd.....over ,over,over again.We have an on-going argument about the beatles.He thinks he wins the argument because VH1 put them at #1 all-time band.Ya'll remember that I'm sure.Don't get me wrong,I like the beatles.But I think they are very over-rated.They started out at the right time doing Buddy Holly and Carl Perkins type stuff.When they finally got their own style ,or was it George Martin's style.If they wouldn't have had Martin they wouldn't have had a fraction of the sucess.But when they got their style ,they quit playing live.Not that theres anything wrong with that,But They were the biggest thing at that time,Play some shows.Also I think man for man there are a lots of bands that are more talented.The Eagles for one,Allman Bros.,Fleetwood Mac,Pink Floyd,I could go on and on.Coments,opinions,flames let's just keep it civil folks.
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Bwahahahahahaha :D :D :D OK. Had to get that out of the way. I could never listen to only one band. Even the Beatles. [quote]Also I think man for man there are a lots of bands that are more talented.The Eagles for one,Allman Bros.,Fleetwood Mac,Pink Floyd,I could go on and on [/quote]Fleetwood Mac?????.......The Allman Bros????????........ BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, Dickie Betts was a much more talented guitarist than George....right :D ...at least when he wasn't too drunk to perform...
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Well damn The Beatles are great but even the greatest music in the world gets old after you play it for a while. I would bring my own CDs in and insist on playing 1 of yours for one of his if he is going to make you listen. That is totally selfish to make everybody listen to the same things over and over. Why does he get to decide what you listen to? I would bring in The Christmas Album by Alvin And The Chipmunks and make him listen to it. Tell him you really think they have talent. If that doesn't work you'll have to slap the hell out of him.
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IMO Mac and the Bros could pull their stuff off live.And no I was never given the opportunity to see the beatless,oh I mean beatles.I don't think the beatles could have that was before the time of the sampler.
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Well, a lot of what makes music special is context. For the guy playing it, who knows, maybe his context is he got his first blow job while the Beatles were playing. Your context is some old guy playing the same CD over and over again. The Beatles made some great music that meshed perfectly with its time. The music remains great, but the perfect meshing is gone.
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Oh no everyone kinda plays their own thing just sometimes it all jumbles together and sounds like music hell.I use headphones alot. :D But you know I gotta go piss or go to the food machine and the first thing I hear "I wanna hold your hand".ARRRGGGGGGHHHHHH.
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Yeah I can appreciate that Craig. When I got my first blowjob I think Styx was playing(could be wrong,I'm no spring chicken either).But I couldn't listen to it forever.But I get your point. :D
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this is also a question of context. on their final tour they tried to do some of the new stuff (like Paperback Writer) but they simply could not hear themselves above the audience screaming. Makes it difficult to perform, or to even want to, when you cannot hear yourself or your bandmates. [quote]Originally posted by jgc2002: [b]IMO Mac and the Bros could pull their stuff off live.And no I was never given the opportunity to see the beatless,oh I mean beatles.I don't think the beatles could have that was before the time of the sampler.[/b][/quote]

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[quote]Originally posted by jgc2002: [b]Yeah I can appreciate that Craig. When I got my first blowjob I think Styx was playing(could be wrong,I'm no spring chicken either).But I couldn't listen to it forever.But I get your point. :D [/b][/quote]Flowers of Romance, by PiL. I know what you're saying. :) Maybe this should be a new thread...but maybe not. :eek: Well, what the Wewus said- even the greatest music gets old OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. Actually the greatest music can't be taken in such doses, it's too powerful. Once through then savor...
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I got tired of listening to the Beatles after a while too. Now my 7 year old son and his three year old brother discovered them. They watch the Beatles films "A Hard Days Night" and "Help" over and over and listen to the CD's. Luckily the older guy "discovered" the Rolling Stones a few weeks ago so now we have a new soundtrack at our house. I bought him a set of headphones so we can get some relief. Maybe you should do that for the guy in the next cell...er, I mean cubicle!

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The Beatles were great, they truely took American Rock and Blues and brought it to everyone's attention and obsession. And they continued to push the envelope throughout thier careers together. But they didn't and do not stand alone. There's lots of great music out there. Hmmmmmm, could they have pulled off thier studio stuff live? Good question. I thought the stuff on top of the Apple recors building sounded pretty good, and that would give a good indication that they could pull it off. After all, they didn't start off as a recording band, these guys were club performers. Yes, I think they could have pulled it off. BUT, I don't think that they were what I would call a "performance band", meaning that thier live performances would mostly remain covers of thier own songss. Unlike an artist like Hendrix, who when he played live took it to the next level, and made something wonderful and interactive and unique. I don't think they could have done that.
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Hmmm... I agree...you can't just listen to one band. A couple of questions, though. The Beatles put out a bunch of material. Is he just playing like a couple, or does he have all of their stuff? I like the "Alvin and the Chipmunks" bit. Good idea. Maybe some polkas. I don't have a doubt that the Beatles could have pulled off a lot of their stuff live. Perhaps not then, because the excessive orchestration in the pre-sampler days would have made it impossible. But, they could have trimmed a lot of it down. But, the main reasons they stopped touring were... 1. They couldn't hear themselves. 2. They were physically threatened in the Phillipines after "snubbing" Imelda Marcos. 3. After John's "Jesus remark" they felt their safety was in jeopardy. After hearing McCartney in concert, I'm sure they'd have been good to see live at any point in their career.
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Almost every other band George Martin recorded in the 60's really sucked. The Beatles deserve every drop of all the huge ocean of hype, although not always for the reasons given. Too bad the music industry ate the goose that laid all those golden eggs. If those guys had kept working *together* for another ten or twenty years, man oh man. Too bad their existing recordings are the only ones we get to hear! Ted

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[quote]Originally posted by NASA: [b]If someone said to me, 'hey, you are going to have to live on a deserted island for 5 years, you can only bring one artists' catalog with you', I'd pick The Beatles.[/b][/quote]I'd pick Victoria's Secret :) Now that's a catalogue! -- Rob
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[quote] Is he just playing like a couple, or does he have all of their stuff? [/quote]He has most of their stuff I don't know if he has all.But it seems like he listens to the older stuff most. [quote] After hearing McCartney in concert, I'm sure they'd have been good to see live at any point in their career. [/quote]Did you pay 250$ a head to see him.That's what the tickets were going for in Dallas.I wouldn't pay 250 to see anyone. :D But if you can afford it go for it.
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[quote]Originally posted by jgc2002: [b]Not wantin to get into any name callin or nothin like that just a little lively debate. I work in the drafting dept. in a construction co. There is a baby boomer in the next cubicle.He listens to the same beatles cd,over,over and over again.Drives me to want to piss on an electric fence.When I ask him to branch out he picks another beatles cd.....over ,over,over again.We have an on-going argument about the beatles.He thinks he wins the argument because VH1 put them at #1 all-time band.Ya'll remember that I'm sure.Don't get me wrong,I like the beatles.But I think they are very over-rated.They started out at the right time doing Buddy Holly and Carl Perkins type stuff.When they finally got their own style ,or was it George Martin's style.If they wouldn't have had Martin they wouldn't have had a fraction of the sucess.But when they got their style ,they quit playing live.Not that theres anything wrong with that,But They were the biggest thing at that time,Play some shows.Also I think man for man there are a lots of bands that are more talented.The Eagles for one,Allman Bros.,Fleetwood Mac,Pink Floyd,I could go on and on.Coments,opinions,flames let's just keep it civil folks.[/b][/quote]
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[quote]Originally posted by koolkid: [b] [quote]Originally posted by jgc2002: [b]Not wantin to get into any name callin or nothin like that just a little lively debate. I work in the drafting dept. in a construction co. There is a baby boomer in the next cubicle.He listens to the same beatles cd,over,over and over again.Drives me to want to piss on an electric fence.When I ask him to branch out he picks another beatles cd.....over ,over,over again.We have an on-going argument about the beatles.He thinks he wins the argument because VH1 put them at #1 all-time band.Ya'll remember that I'm sure.Don't get me wrong,I like the beatles.But I think they are very over-rated.They started out at the right time doing Buddy Holly and Carl Perkins type stuff.When they finally got their own style ,or was it George Martin's style.If they wouldn't have had Martin they wouldn't have had a fraction of the sucess.But when they got their style ,they quit playing live.Not that theres anything wrong with that,But They were the biggest thing at that time,Play some shows.Also I think man for man there are a lots of bands that are more talented.The Eagles for one,Allman Bros.,Fleetwood Mac,Pink Floyd,I could go on and on.Coments,opinions,flames let's just keep it civil folks.[/b][/quote][/b][/quote]i was just thinkin about the beatles this week, if you look at their discography,by their fourth album,theyre playing with an entire symphony orchestra for gods sake and when you think that bands like the who started in 63 and were smashing guitars by 65 it kind of makes you wonder who the real brit forefathers of rock were
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First, most kids are into repetition. I myself wore out 2 45's of Satisfaction when I was 10. I still can enjoy some repetition - I've found there are CD's I can listen to twice a day for a week. I use headphones in a cube, so I'm not bothering anyone else... The Beatles are great - just great. Still, there are many other things I like to listen to. If you can loan your co-worker some similar material, maybe he'll branch out. Start by having him download Macle's stuff... Tom

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[quote]Originally posted by jgc2002: [b] [quote] Is he just playing like a couple, or does he have all of their stuff? [/quote]He has most of their stuff I don't know if he has all.But it seems like he listens to the older stuff most. [quote] After hearing McCartney in concert, I'm sure they'd have been good to see live at any point in their career. [/quote]Did you pay 250$ a head to see him.That's what the tickets were going for in Dallas.I wouldn't pay 250 to see anyone. :D But if you can afford it go for it.[/b][/quote]I paid about $100 for my ticket, and drove to Detroit from Kansas City to see the show. That's probably the only act I would do that for. To me, it was worth it. Not for everyone. But, I do agree, your buddy oughta listen to something else once in awhile. Make an arrangement with him to trade off listening time..
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[quote]Originally posted by Dwarf: [b]Yeah, but if "Holly" had "wood" worth talking about, I don't think I wanna look at Holly. -- Rob[/b][/quote]Don't you mean Holly Woodlawn?
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Well, even though they're one of her fav bands, I've worn my girlfriend out on em. Maybe get the guy to play some 70's Beatles on their own albums for variety? I agree that anything gets old day in and day out. Be a shame to get burnt on something good, but thank your lucky stars the guy's not into gangsta rap or Celeine Dion or something.
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