alphajerk Posted June 15, 2002 Posted June 15, 2002 the BM5 is the inspiration for the SF12. if i took a pic of it and posted it it looks a LOT like it. the "fentone" is the R121. as to the sonic differences, i dont have a fentone or a sf12. the r121 is obviously going to be more robust than a fentone. and i would hope that a sf12 has more output than my bm5.... it takes my cranesong all the way up to get enough gain for drum overheads. i think the API's are better suited to the bm5 somehow [impedance possibly] and requires less gain. i just saw a bm5 go for $890 on ebay. alphajerk FATcompilation "if god is truly just, i tremble for the fate of my country" -thomas jefferson
audiofreek Posted June 15, 2002 Posted June 15, 2002 Thanks Alpha, Apparently ribbons realy like to be impedance matched,so I imagine the Neve syle pres would be a good match,no?
Philip OKeefe Posted June 15, 2002 Posted June 15, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by audiofreek: [b]No man!it's just gear lust.It's a sickness,like gambling.I've been married for ten years,and now I know how to do it without getting busted. Read,and learn: The very first thing you want to do is; Open up a new account(one your fiance cannot access via computer or mailed statements.Never ever use your Visa card or Paypal. In order to put money in this account use any money you recieve from recording,odd jobs,or my favorite;When you do any shopping using your bank card connected to joint accounts,always ask for extra cash.Deposit your mic money in your secret account.When shipping your ebay purchases,have them sent to a good and trusted friends address. Secrets always have a way of getting out ,sometimes they are not worth the grey hair and worry the cause.Just recently I purchased an EV V-2A velocity microphone on ebay,When it arrived I tested it immediately on my VC1,to see if it worked.It did,but it sounded like crap.Word to wise,Don't buy V2A mikes built at the Buchanon Mich.factory ,they are not ribbon mics,they have a shitty little moving coil diaphram.This is original.This must be one of EVs dirty little secrets. A.F.[/b][/quote]Well, you should have gotten the V-1 mic - which IS a ribbon. I've got one sitting around that never gets used if you're interested... Word to the wise though... it's a high impedance, unbalanced output. :(
miroslav Posted June 15, 2002 Posted June 15, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by riffing: [b]Hmmm. Is something going down that I don't know about? Someone else gave a tip on a PAIR of Oktava MC012 mics for $199 at MF. Click [url=http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=020613181606206184017253779184/search/g=home/detail/base_id/81864]here[/url] [/b][/quote]Not to be astickler for detail...but that deal at MF is not for the MC 012 mics...but for the MK 012 mics. Same mics really...but the MC version comes with the other two capsules...the MK is just the one cardioid capsule. MF was selling the MK mic for $150 each...so $200 for a pair is still a great deal...hmmmm...? Any one try the Oktava ribbon mic? it's $400 I think at MF...would love to hear a review if anyone has one. miroslav - miroslavmusic.com "Just because it happened to you, it doesn't mean it's important."
x factor music Posted June 15, 2002 Posted June 15, 2002 these are amazing mics for $29.95: [url=http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F002%5F003%5F005%5F000&product%5Fid=33%2D3032]http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fn ame=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F002%5F003%5F005%5F000&product%5Fid=33%2D3032[/url] they are the same as the sennheiser E604(?) mics...our sound man picked up 3 yesterday and mounted them on our drummer's toms & we compared with the sm57s and they sounded just as good if not better...he also mounted one inside a snare drum as he was having a lot of high hat bleed into the beta 57 he was using on the snare. i know, radio shack, whatever, but seeing is believing...these mics are an incredible deal! jeremeyhunsicker.com
audiofreek Posted June 15, 2002 Posted June 15, 2002 Hey Phil, I'm interested.What does the V-1 sound like,and how much would you be looking to get out of it. A.F.
audiofreek Posted June 16, 2002 Posted June 16, 2002 I went to Radioshock today,to see if they had the 604 clones.Apparently,they will not be available in Canada.I could see them becoming very popular,like the PZMs were. Yeah Rog,you got it right.The ribbon is the transducer.It is placed,smack dab inbetween a very large magnet,when the ribbon moves,voltage is induced,negative at one end of the ribbon,positive at the other.Although,they don't have the inherent high output that a moving coil of wire does,they do not need the circiutry required in condensers to achieve a good sound.For what the ribbon lacks in induction,the magnet makes up for in sheer strength.So a ribbon microphone still operates on basic dynamic principals,but velocity,instead of pressure,but are sometimes refered to as pressure gradient.This is when a baffle system is used to manipulate pressure,to achieve different polar patterns. A.F.
Dak Lander Posted June 16, 2002 Posted June 16, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by x factor music: [b]i know, radio shack, whatever, but seeing is believing...these mics are an incredible deal![/b][/quote]I can attest to the Radio Shack mics. I had an old highball (think SM58) that I used for over 15 years. I finally gave it to my son because he needed another mic. It was knocked over, the screen flew off & all I did was put the darned thing back on. Worked great, good sound & when I went to a different mic for vocals I used it to mic my acoustics. Very nice for that. I'd certainly keep them in mind when looking again. Our Joint "When you come slam bang up against trouble, it never looks half as bad if you face up to it." The Duke...
audiofreek Posted June 17, 2002 Posted June 17, 2002 Yeah,I had a couple of PZMs that I used for overheads for years.They really add alot of nice hi-freq. to the cymbal sound.I really liked the sound I was getting on drums at the time,but after a while I started to notice the distotion,even with the two ni-cads in them to improve the headroom.I sold them to a guy just getting into recording,I'm sure they'll give him years of good serice as well.
Philip OKeefe Posted June 17, 2002 Posted June 17, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by audiofreek: [b]Hey Phil, I'm interested.What does the V-1 sound like,and how much would you be looking to get out of it. A.F.[/b][/quote]Well, to be honest, I've never really messed with it. I bought it off of Ebay because it looked interesting. I think I paid $200 or so for it... but it didn't come with a cable. It uses one of those screw on kind of connectors. I think there's a site online you can get them from pre-made. Anyway, the ribbon's intact, and the guy guaranteed it worked, but in terms of describing the sonics, I really can't help you out there. If you're interested, you can have it for whatever I had into it... I can check on that and get back to you... if you don't like it, you can send it back and I'll refund your money. I also have a couple of spare RCA 74's that I bought with the intention of rebuilding, but have not gotten around to it yet. I've also got a set that I've already done, but I'm keeping those.... :)
audiofreek Posted June 17, 2002 Posted June 17, 2002 Really!Hmmm,Sounds interesting.I'll have to get back to you in a few days,I'm looking at something on ebay right now.Please do get back to me about the V-1. e-mail:cheslattarecords@shaw.ca Thanks, A.F.
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