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The past few months I have began to notice shooting pains that start in my wrists and end near the tips of my fingers when I play. With the stiffness and pain it makes extended sets almost unbearable. Asprin and other pain medications do not work very well for me, and sometimes make me very sick. I have heard about the use of copper bracelets to relive joint pain. Does anyone use these, and if so how well do they work?

 

Thanks much

 

Dr

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Hey no doctor...

 

I'm not a doctor either...but I play one on this forum. Don't take the following medical advice as seriously as you would from a doctor.

 

Get thyself to some kinda doctor immediately. In addition, stop playing until you do. This is classic carpal tunnel syndrome.

 

Leave the damn copper bracelets alone. What? You believe in magic?

 

Carpal tunnel syndrome is caused when you make a pinching motion while your wrist is bent. Like typing on a computer. Like playing a bass.

 

Are your wrists straight?

 

We discussed this Here, with a personal story. and we also discussed it Here, in "practice standing up."

 

How about Aargh! Pain and Swelling

There are a bunch of others. Face it...the guys here are a bunch of practicin' fools. We have problems from time to time. Proper body mechanics minimizes them.

 

Oh, and by the way:

 

Welcome to the board.

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Hello DoctorNo, Welcome to the Lowdown! Glad to have you here!

 

Now,GET OUT OF YOUR DENIAL AND GO TO THE DOCTOR!these things only get worse when ignored!

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FYI- Don't take Asprin for tendon or joint pain, take Ibuprofen i.e. Advil. It's easier on your stomach, and is more effective for reducing inflammation.

 

P.S. Don't go to a GP, see a specialist for repetitive motion injuries, like an orthopedic specialist for example.

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Originally posted by DoctorNo:

The past few months I have began to notice shooting pains that start in my wrists and end near the tips of my fingers when I play. With the stiffness and pain it makes extended sets almost unbearable. Asprin and other pain medications do not work very well for me, and sometimes make me very sick. I have heard about the use of copper bracelets to relive joint pain. Does anyone use these, and if so how well do they work?

 

Thanks much

 

Dr

SEE A DOCTOR NOW. I am recuperating From carpal tunnel/guynons canal syndrome surgery on my left hand that I had two weeks ago. I tried numerous therapies before I had no other option than the surgery.

 

I waited too long to have my right hand done (January of this year) and I have nerve damage that the doctors are telling me that is irreversible.

 

See a doctor now and you may be able to help this condition with therapy ( find a doctor that will try different physical therapy's before suggesting surgery) or as a last result surgery. Putting it off may result in permanent nerve damage. Have both hands checked. When it is present in one it is more often than not in both hands.

 

Speaking from experience :(

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It is highly likely that you, like most people who experience such symptoms, do NOT have classic CTS, but you should do something about it right away. I had such symptoms once, and it scared the hell out of me - I thought someone would end up cutting on me for sure. Turns out that a few visits to the chiropractor and the massage therapist did the trick. Find a good massage therapist and ask him/her to work on any area along your arm and shoulder where your median nerve may be compressed; this nerve being squeezed is the usual cause of such symptoms, whether it's real carpal tunnel syndrome or not. Usually, it's simply stiff muscles or joints out of place, which means drugs and surgery wont change a thing if it's not really CTS you have.

 

But whatever you do, do something, and DO NOT OVERPLAY, if you even play at all, until you find out what's going on in your wrists.

"I had to have something, and it wasn't there. I couldn't go down the street and buy it, so I built it."

 

Les Paul

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GO to your doctor and have him schedule an EMG. This test will tell you if you do or do not have CTS or if there may be another problem along the nerves of the arm. Massage therapy and physical therapy can help more that some may think but an EMG will let you know what the problem is and then you can discuss with your doctor the types of therapy to try. IF you have CTS and try treating it yourself you run the risk of permanent nerve damage.

Treat the cause of the problem and not the symptoms

 

Speaking from experience

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I'll echo all that, and suggest you get yourself to a specialist with a good reputation. IMHO, the "diagnosis du jour" is Carpal Tunnel, and it's not always accurate. Tests (like nerve conductivity) must be done, uncomfortable but necessary-- they'll attach electrodes and introduce tiny shocks and measure the time it takes to reach extremeties. I had one guy all ready to cut me up until I insisted upon testing to confirm the diagnosis.

 

There are some very good sites under Musician's Health and Injuries on my Double Bass Links Page - http://www.urbbob.com/basslink.html that are worth reading, to familiarize yourself with musicians injuries. My experiences along these lines were described in an article in Double Bassist Magazine a year or two ago- fibromyalgia ain't fun, either.

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I have had the same thing for a long time.If you want it to stop you must stop using your hands for a couple of weeks.Go to a pharmacy and get a wrist brace.Where the wrist brace while you sleep if it is awkward to wear during the day.Go see a bone and joint specialist.
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Interesting story there, Bob. I'll have to keep that in mind. Anyway, I do some weightlifting during the week and that seems to work for me. I do some exercises that focus on the shoulders and arms, and it's helped me a lot. As does taking a break; sometimes I'm up longer than I should be, due to my studies, and if that happens, I usually don't play. :( Thankfully, this hasn't happened too much, but sometimes it's better to break off for a bit.

 

It's not surprising to me that some pro musicians sometimes take a few months off from playing after a long tour of duty. Not a bad idea, especially if you've been playing since forever.

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Hey folks, thanks a lot for the feedback. I have scheduled an appointment with the doctor. I just didnt think about the possibility of CTS. I naturally assumed that it was some form of arthritis because I have had similar problems with my knees and ankles, but the more I think about it, it would probably be better to make sure

 

Thanks again,

 

Doc No

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Glad to hear that you are going to the Dr.!You mentioned problems with your knees and ankles so I would also suggest that you have a complete bloodwork done as well.There are many causes for such things and many are treatable....IF you know what the underlying problem actually is.

 

Good Luck to you and keep us updated.

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Life is what happens while you are busy playing in bands.

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