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hey guys and gals,

Long time no see (or post)! I am sad to say that I am starting to lose intrest in the Bass Guitar. There is nothing wrong with it what so ever, its just I am starting to get boared. I am really talented, but I think the problem is that I just don't play with people. I bet that if I do, I will start to get back into it. I have had a history of giving up on things I was really good at, and I don't want that to happen again. I never play with people. This also is really bad because I just spent at least $1400 dollars on a spector euro bass. Anything I can do to get motivated? An even worse thing is that my dad started making me learn guitar a little more than a year ago. I am now starting to like guitar more than bass, but I think my heart is in the bass. What a dilemma! I also don't really want to be one of those bass players who also play guitar, because they sound and too melodic to me. Please help!

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i dunno... Bass Guitar is such a big part of my life (sad isn't it..) that its just the thing that i do. I would never ever even think of giving it up. If its not a complete and total obsession :freak: (never mind being bored), then it can't be right for you IMO.
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The way I see it, a guitarist is a musician, so do whatever you enjoy most. Playing bass shouldn't be like pulling teeth. If it was like that for me, I'd quit right away. Maybe you'll grow sick of guitar and find a new interest in bass? Anything can happen. Just do what feels right.
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It's gotta be a fire that burns underneath your skin...so, I'm not sure anything that I say will help...but, you can try:

 

1) Going to some good shows in your area. Get blown away by the bassist.

 

2) Listen to some other genres, and legendary bassists. If you play, for instance, primarily slam it out rock...listen to Jazz. Funk. Reggae...something that will give you a new lease on how to approach the instrument.

 

3) Play with people! Hit jam nights. As a bassist, you shouldn't have problems finding people to jam with. Bassists are in high demand.

 

4) Learn another instrument...something that goes hand in hand with the bass. Drums could be good. Learning piano might give you another idea of how to approach bass lines.

 

Just some thoughts...

 

Good luck!!!

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i am now motivated to call my cousin so we can jam, bring my bass to jazz band next week (because I only play trumpet cuz they already have 2 bass players), and as soon as I have time, ill get out the stereo, put in a little 'tallica, and go crazy.

 

I also used to be the same way as gord -b. All I used to think about was playin the bass, and I thought about it a little too much in fact, especially during algebra. :D I'm starting to give up bass for paintball, but I'll probably stop that because it's so darn expensive!

 

I used to be really good at skateboarding, then I gave that up and started getting into magic, which I was also good at, then I gave that up for playing bass, which I am really good at, and know my love for the bass is startin to go. I regret almost everyday for stoping skateborading and doing magic, and am now worrying about the bass.

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I totally understand you man.

 

I left my band like 5-6 months ago to move here and start school Haven't played since. And also... haven't post here a lot, either (I'm talkin' 'bout the Lowdown, not the rest of the Forums).

 

Playing with people is such an important part of being and instrumentalist... now I'm more focused on engineering/sequiencing/songwriting/producing... and where did the bass go?

 

I gotta pick it up, and fast.

 

So... play with somebody! :wave:

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I think a good way to look at it is to think that your not good. Being 'good' is not having some Metallica riffs in your box 'o' tricks.

 

Its being a serious, solid musician capable of dealing with lots of musical situations. Being a good bass player is the summit of a mountain you will never reach the top of as you are never as good as you can be.

 

The true joy in playing bass can be found when you have been working on something for weeks and weeks (for example scales) and all of a sudden you start noticing these in the 'hugely hugely diverse' cd collection of yours and you can see what the bass player is doing there and you understand why it works.

 

You then go to your equally enthusiastic bandmates/musician friends and show them what you've learned in a musical situation and they say 'cool'. Then Repeat this process for rest of life. (then maybe you will understand some of DBB and JC's threads)

 

Then you may get the privelage of showing other people all the well grounded and 'in the pocket' playing you are capable of and you will have the motivation to practise more and more (and more)

 

P.S

 

and more...

 

(i'm trying to do this in theory but there is a small problem of my degree getting in the way, which i incidently see as a way of getting money to get more stuff to practise more with.... and more.)

 

... for now anyway.

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Follow your heart!

 

Nothing is going to give you the response you are looking for, more than what your heart says you need.

 

Guitar/Bass/Engineering/Chef/Whatever!

 

We all have our goals, and we all have our desires...

 

Do what feels right, and put your best effort into it! Nothing is right, without the effort!

Nothing is wrong, with the effort!!

 

Best wishes to ya, whichever you decide to pursue!

 

JBFLA

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Sorry to hear of your dillemna, Jimbo.

 

Tell ya what. Instead of being 'bothered' by your new interest in guitar, jump into it!

 

I started out playing guitar 26 years ago. My first band. I was the lead vocalist, and we couldn't find a second guitar worthy of our talents. (we were 15 years old...lol)

 

I played for 4 years. After lots of lessons, I was.... adequate at best, but enjoying myself, hooking up with other players, if not bands.

 

I soon joined another band. I was the rhythm guitarist. We had no bass player, and was soon told "Hey!! You like bass! (I did). You play bass!"

 

I was skeptical at first, but they were gonna replace me if I didn't play bass, so I picked up a cheap one, and with a homemade amp, I got to it.

 

To keep this brief, all I can say is that the more I played bass, the more my guitar playing improved! Soon, I was better than the guys giving me lessons just a few years before!

 

Weird? Maybe. All I'm saying is, don't feel that you are "denying your bass roots" by learning and getting into guitar, or any other instrument, for that matter.

 

Maybe you'll stick with guitar. Maybe not. But maybe...you will end up happy playing both. And better for the adventure.

 

I've played guitar for 26 years, and bass for 23. I've been called a good guitarist, and a great bassist by musical peers. I've gone long stretches without playing with others, but in the end, I had to play.

 

I hope, and think you'll know where your heart is soon...

 

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Originally posted by Tedster the Salsa Shepherd:

It's gotta be a fire that burns underneath your skin...so, I'm not sure anything that I say will help...but, you can try:

 

1) Going to some good shows in your area. Get blown away by the bassist.

 

2) Listen to some other genres, and legendary bassists. If you play, for instance, primarily slam it out rock...listen to Jazz. Funk. Reggae...something that will give you a new lease on how to approach the instrument.

 

3) Play with people! Hit jam nights. As a bassist, you shouldn't have problems finding people to jam with. Bassists are in high demand.

 

4) Learn another instrument...something that goes hand in hand with the bass. Drums could be good. Learning piano might give you another idea of how to approach bass lines.

 

Just some thoughts...

 

Good luck!!!

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I wonder if this is the first tearjerker of forum topics? Just kidding. Who knows, this may be some stage I'm goin through. I think the reason I turned to guitar was that I was always a melodic bass player since day one. I would always try and learn guitar licks on my bass, but was never interested in guitar. I used to be able to play guitar parts to "fade to black", "Purple Haze", "Hells Bells" and even some guitar solos. Pretty cool lookin back on it. I loved to be melodic. Things have changed, now I love the guitar. Maybe my heart is in the guitar. Maybe not. I've only been playin for 3 years (im 14) so I think I should give it some time.
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Funny, my love for a lot of guitar work is something I've just put into my approach on bass, and was partially responsible for getting into the Roland V-Bass. Ironically, I like the soloing that one can do on bass to keep the band firing along rythmically, and not too forget about the low and mid registers. Kind of like playing baritone sax solos when people are used to tenor and alto ; }

 

Now I toy with the idea of getting a 6 string fretless with narrower spacing, that has built-in V-Bass electronics and an RMC piezo bridge to drive the V-Bass side. Maybe Lawrence Mollerup, I think he's done a fair number of specialist RMC installations. I'd think about 7 strings but I like a neck to feel somewhat guitaristic, and for the bass to weigh comfortably for an entire night of playing since I am not into bringing (or even owning) more than one.

 

Too bad Carvin doesn't make a "V-Bass Ready" choice, because my particular LB-75 fretless sounds and feels incredible and was versatile even before I installed V-Bass stuff on it. I love that bass!

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Since getting my 5 string, I have been doing some guitar like things. Though not exactly at the level of greenboy's, it's allowed me to creatively come up with things I wouldn't have otherwise.

 

Of course, I still love to play guitar. I just bought a ZOOM GFX-5 last month, and have had a "rebirth" of sorts when playing my Ibanez RG560 "can opener". :D

 

I have enough basses for now, so I may actually shop for a new guitar next time I have the chance to get a new instrument, probably a Les Paul type of some sort. The jazz stuff is invading my head space quite a bit, though I'd like one 'cause it's the perfect guitar for punking out too (as Erik the CMDN dude has attested to). It's also great for playing the pieces out there written for "electric classical guitar". And, no whammy to deal with. :)

 

(Not that I'm getting rid of my Ibanez anytime soon. That's an awesome guitar.)

 

I've now been able to come much closer to the guitar sounds I want, and that spark has transferred itself to my bass playing. ALso, I'm always on the lookout for interesting music to listen to. I'm starting to listen to more orchestral stuff, and hopefully within a month or so, my dad's new project will take off.

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There is nothing wrong about exploring other instruments. I have laid down the bass a couple of times for a few years for different reasons but eventually I came back to it ready to play and learn more. I do think that you need to experience playing music with others whether it is on bass, guitar, or any other instrument you may take up.

 

At your age you should learn different things. Don't think of yourself as a quitter just because another activity has become more interesting to you than the one you are doing now. How else are you going to figure out which path is right for you? You will only be happy doing what you really want to be doing.

 

Jam with your family, friends, and anyone else that you can find. Learn the guitar and jam with your friends when you are ready.

LEARN. At your age learn as much as you can about anything that interest you. You will find your path.

It sounds like you have a very supporting family so use that support to learn whatever it is you want to do.

 

Good luck

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You said it was the "worst news possible".

 

Here I was thinking that you lost your arm in an accident, or your house and all your possessions were burned up in the San Diego fire, or your wife died, or something really bad.

 

So you're losing interest in the bass. And maybe you're getting interested in the guitar. Or maybe not.

 

Just do what feels right, man. You'll be ok.

 

There really is nothing to worry about.

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Fer chrissakes, when you're 14 you should be trying out different things. You don't need to decide on the path your life will take for, oh let's say, another 30 or 40 years. I never even owned a bass until I was 36 years older than you are now. I love it, but some times I lose interest and don't play for a while. So far, the world hasn't come to an end.

 

"worst news possible?" Sheesh, don't kids worry about nuclear war anymore? :freak:

 

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What Jeremy said. Keep things in perspective. A friend of mine used to say any day you're still you is a good day.

 

But I do understand how sad it seems. Actually, I experienced something similar about a year ago. I thought of quitting--not because I lost interest in playing, but just the opposite: I wasn't playing, & the agony of not playing was too great. I thought maybe I should just get playing out of my life altogether. Sounds crazy now.

 

Today, I'm playing, I'm better at it than ever before, and enjoying it more than ever before. The cure? First, I started playing with people!! No big whoop, but I was out there. It made all the difference.

 

Make it fun.

 

And if you can't, do something else. You don't owe anything to an instrument; it doesn't deserve the sacrifice of your enjoying life.

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Play what interests you. It can take years for you to figure out what exactly it is that you want to do musically. When I was your age, I was a guitar player (yeah, make fun of me some more Willie :D ). When I was 18, I finally figured out that bass was what really turned me on musically. Maybe bass isn't your thing (poor bastard :D ), maybe it is. Explore other options and just do it. You'll eventually find your thing. A word of advice, don't sell your bass. You may regret it later. I sold all my guitars when I started playing bass and I wish I hadn't. Just today I finally bought another guitar and started monkeying around with that instrument again. It feels like starting over . Being a musician is a lifelong learning experience, no matter what instrument you choose to play. Unless you are feeling like you just don't want to be a musician anymore, I'd suggest checking out whatever instrument excites you.
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This is a damn good argument for beginners to not dump thousands of $$$ into the instrument. Now there will be all kinds of pressures to either:

 

a) play the bass, because you have so much invested in it

 

OR

 

b) recoup part of the investment by selling the Spector

 

Also, I cannot imagine why Dad would make you learn guitar when your interest is bass! Why not tell him "Look Dad, I appreciate the guitar lessons but my interest is the bass and I'd like to switch to bass lessons and get involved in a band" or something. That is, if your heart really is in the bass.

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Since your dad is "making you learn guitar", I'll assume you're in your teens, or perhaps early 20s. That's about the time I stopped playing bass, only to come back to it in my 40s.

 

BIG MISTAKE! :freak:

 

When I think of all the TV I watched, booze I drank, and time I just wasted, I get pretty bummed. Mind-you, I'm no loser (good job, wife, 2 kids), but I really wish I'd done more.

 

Stopping or slowing bass is cool if its not "your thing". If you do move-on from bass, though, be sure to replace it with something you can be proud of!

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GIVE IT UP...

 

and send your bass to me. :evil:

 

Just kidding... Find some people to play with... Some GOOD players that will shame you into wanting to learn more. Get out of your comfort zone where you are the king, almighty, most talented bassist and into a place that SCARES you.

 

Play jazz and funk and blues with a bunch of 40 and 50 year olds.

 

Quit yer whining and learn the guitar.

 

If you still feel like giving up the bass, SEND IT TO ME.

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Originally posted by jimbojones:

I am really talented, but I think the problem is that I just don't play with people. I bet that if I do, I will start to get back into it. I have had a history of giving up on things I was really good at, and I don't want that to happen again. I never play with people.

How do you know if you're really good if you don't play with people? Bass is all about the interaction with the other instruments and the essential harmony/rhythm function it fulfils. Get out there, find some musicians (the style doesn't matter, it doesn't even matter if they're any good or not) and try to make music!

 

Alex

 

P.S. Please make that stupid man (the one that hangs around all your posts) go away, he irritates me.

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Play with other people. It makes all the difference.

 

In fact.. think about the role of playing bass. It is a SUPPORT instrument (with a few exceptions.) It's hard to play bass as it's most often played without being able to provide a backbone or countermelody for something else that's going on.

 

That's how I see it anyway.

G'Luck.

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