40hertz Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 hello everyone! i just came across this quote in another music forum and thought i sould share it with you... "different guitars have songs in them and you have to dig into them to find the songs..." what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikertrash Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 I think: A. English is his second language and they are confusing "songs" with Tone. Or... B. I want some of whatever he's smoking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40hertz Posted October 26, 2003 Author Share Posted October 26, 2003 Originally posted by bikertrash: I think: A. English is his second language and they are confusing "songs" with Tone. Or... B. I want some of whatever he's smokingenglish is a second language to me,too,but i totally understood what he/she meant...and i do not wish to comment on the smoking part... i think each instrument has its own personality.taking this into consideration,it is possible that one can create unique tones and songs or music pieces using a particular bass or guitar. for example,what about michael manring and his zon bass guitars?or sonic youth,with their intelligent use of guitars that have been picked up especially for their individual tone/character? or numerous musicians who record and perform with their trusty guitars/instruments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getz out Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 I wouldn't read TOO much into it, but there is a valid point in there somewhere. When I write, certain guitars and basses bring out different aspects of my playing. There are certain songs I've written on my acoustic guitar that I would have never written on my electric guitar (even though I end up playing it on an electric). However, the statement is probably a BIT overblown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addix Metzatricity Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 Wait... no... I think that person is entirely correct... Since everyone's out buying Fieldy's signature Ibanez and Mark Hoppus' (Blink 182) signature Fender, everyone's playing the same music since those are the songs that live in those instruments. I understand now. It makes perfect sense. "Bass isn't just for breakfast anymore..." http://www.mp3.com/Addix_Metzatricity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeennyzim Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 I think it's an interesting point. I definitely tend to play faster stuff when I'm on a nice low-action bass or more blues or classical when I'm playing on my hollowbody fretless. It goes with the sound, which brings out different aspects of your playing. BTW, relating to the Fieldy and Mark Hoppus comment, does anyone know if there's a place that lists which basses are the top sellers? I'd be interested in knowing just how many units the Sig. lines push as opposed to the classic models. As I was going up the stairs I met a man who wasn't there He wasn't there again today I wish, I wish he'd go away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruiser_dup2 Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 Sounds like an excuse to buy more guitars. Bruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Phil Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 Originally posted by Addix Metzatricity: Wait... no... I think that person is entirely correct... Since everyone's out buying Fieldy's signature Ibanez and Mark Hoppus' (Blink 182) signature Fender, everyone's playing the same music since those are the songs that live in those instruments. I understand now. It makes perfect sense.so true... not so much with F13@y's style though. http://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/blue.JPGhttp://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/black.JPGhttp://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/fuscia.JPGhttp://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/grey.JPGhttp://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/orange.JPGhttp://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/purple.JPGhttp://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/red.JPGhttp://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/yellow.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
61Pbass Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 Originally posted by 40hertz: hello everyone! i just came across this quote in another music forum and thought i sould share it with you... "different guitars have songs in them and you have to dig into them to find the songs..." what do you think?I think the songs are in the person....but I have found that if I hit a brick wall while writing, sometimes switching to a different instrument will loosen up my writer's block. It might be the affinity that one has for a particular instrument, a different tonal characteristic that it has, etc. I think it's more psychological than anything. I also think that a lot of us woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. A philosophical statement isn't supposed to be interpreted literally. Geez guys, lighten up on the flaming..... Later.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Capasso Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 I agree that the songs are in the person. I also agree that different tools allow different results. Sometimes you need a hammer, sometimes a screwdriver. It's you creating in either case. Some people have a different philosophical approach, and believe that various elements in the universe have certain inherent abilities. I don't share that, but I agree that anything that makes you think is worthwile. It doesn't mean you have to agree. Tom www.stoneflyrocks.com Acoustic Color Be practical as well as generous in your ideals. Keep your eyes on the stars and keep your feet on the ground. - Theodore Roosevelt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockinredneck69 Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 Sounds like the way Michaelangelo felt as though when he began a sculpture, he was merely releasing the form that was already inside the piece of marble he was working with. Donnie Peterson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basshappi Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 From rockinredneck69 Sounds like the way Michaelangelo felt as though when he began a sculpture, he was merely releasing the form that was already inside the piece of marble he was working with. I was thinking the EXACT same thing! I was even trying to see if I could find the exact quote on the web! ssspppoooookkkyy! Nothing is as it seems but everything is exactly what it is - B. Banzai Life is what happens while you are busy playing in bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 I feel the same way about time. The time is out there all the time, you just have to hook into it and go along for the ride. Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Sweet Willie_ Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 Originally posted by Dr. Zarkov-Capasso: I agree that the songs are in the person. I also agree that different tools allow different results. Sometimes you need a hammer, sometimes a screwdriver. It's you creating in either case. Sometimes you need a Gibson EB short-scale bass...or not... I believe the songs are in the musician, but sometimes they come out more easily with a different tool. However, any excuse to purchase, steal, borrow, or otherwise obtain additional instruments always carries value. I believe that some songs are in the situation. Don't different incidences, or contexts, or experiences trigger different personal "soundtracks" for each of us? Instead of viewing a different "director's cut" of a movie, I'd love to watch a movie multiple times when different composers have scored each version that I watch. I think that would be fascinating, especially to see how the differences in music affected my experience of the film. This would be an interesting way to see how different circumstances (i.e., the scenes of a movie) brought out different "songs" for the composers. Oh yeah, I almost forgot...there's never ever enough bass!!! Peace. spreadluv Fanboy? Why, yes! Nordstrand Pickups and Guitars. Messiaen knew how to parlay the funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcr Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 I'm not sure I think there are songs in guitars (or basses). I do note that different basses tend to bring out a different approach in me, however. I do agree, of course, that songs are in the person. Where else could they be? It's got be in you before anything can help you unlock it. I'd also suggest that songs are in songs. I know that sounds weird, but I sometimes think of a song as a living thing with its own personality, & the trick is to find what that it is & let it be itself when you play it. It's a joy when you can let its personality come out, and a grief when you feel like you've let it down. That's why I say songs have songs locked inside them. Somewhere beneath the melody, the changes, the dynamics, the tempos, there's a voice that wants to be heard. Or, somethin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockinredneck69 Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 I like the way Michaelangelo looked at it...a bit differant in the way that with something like marble I'm thinking the natural veins and fisures would influence one into changing direction in the work as it progressed. With that in mind, as you would be thinking of composing music to lyrics in mind...how would the instrument play along with any changes made? I'm not trying to be a smartass or wanting to dig too deep into the whole aspect of it, it just that it kinda made sense to me. Donnie Peterson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guy Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Writing is about making some good music. If you find it easier to make good music on a specific guitar or bass, then go for it. If a specific guitar or bass has a tone that suits the song you are working on, good. For example, if you're working on a jazz/funk kinda thing, then you're not going to use a bass or guitar that sounds like its made for punk rock. On another note, writing takes a lot of brain power. If you're working on a song, and your instrument of choice is hard to play, you may have a hard time focusing on the song in your attempt to form your chords on an accoustic with 3/4 inch action on the second fret. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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