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i dont understand why anyone (especially bassplayers) would like fieldy's playing. dont get me wrong korn's first two cd's were great, but fieldy's bass sounds like a giant fart. i think he uses the same bass line for every song, that is if you can call the clickety clack of his strings a bass line. if korn got a real bassplayer with some imagination, theyd be on another level, but fieldy slap technique sucks
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Look at it this way: fI3lDy's technique is so unhumanly outstanding that he does not even have to worry about such earthly problems like setting the intonation, action or neck relief etc. like us mere mortals have to do. No sir, he's miles above that stuff, he can just clickety clack away like there was no tomorrow, and make a nice chunk of dough in the process...

 

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Originally posted by MartinJ:

Uh, oh. Watch out; someone is going to say...

 

koRn rULz!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KoRn RuLz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

F13ldy IS THE BEST!!!

 

seriously though....they don't and I would be a better bass player in that band.

 

BTW, the Fieldy sig bass is actually pretty good. I was thinking about getting it... but I got my Dean Acoustic Bass instead. :D

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Fieldy likes his clickety-clack. He's got a tweeter mounted in his cabinet which gets its own mic.

 

Like him or not, you gotta admit he has a unique sound. My problem with that setup is that you can easily hear when the kick drum and bass guitar are out of sync, and it doesn't sound good.

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Hahhahaha...

I like Fieldy.

 

Do I think he's an outstanding bassist?

No, but I think he does the right thing for his band, and that's more important, IMO.

 

He does have a really "clickity-clackity" tone, which understandably bugs a lot of bassists, but I think it works for the music he plays. I see him as more of a percussionist than a bassist...

 

Bunny's right, though, Fieldy's sound makes the discrepancies between his lines and the kick drum really obvious. You'd think they'd fix that stuff in Pro-Tools or something.

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I do not care for mr. F1EldyZ playing. I also do not care for the fact that he knows that he sucks and he does nothing to better himself. He admits that he doesn't ever practice. If Korn weren't such a guitar-heavy band, the huge suck-factor that F1EldY brings to the table would be far more apparent. As it is, he's pretty buried under all the rhythm guitar assault; the only thing that cuts through is the clicky clicky clicks.

 

If you saw MTV's Metallica Icon show... wow... F1EldY was god awful. It was painful to listen to.

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posted 10-07-2003 12:54 PM

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I don't understand why you chose to "go negative" on your first post. If you don't like KoRn, don't listen to them.

 

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it wasnt my first post...lol...and i cant really argue that his sound is distinct, or that he makes more money that i ever will at playing bass (id make more money growing korn, lol) i just wanted to know what you guys thought

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I'll give him the fact that he and the drummer come up with some interesting beats. If he only had a 15 or 18 to mic along with his horn then we could atleast get some bass with his clickity clack. They are tuned all the way down to A or Ab so even if he did have a higher bass level you still couldn't hear it very well. Is the guy a great bass player? No. Is he really rich and in a kick ass band? Yes. So, whatever.
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Originally posted by CMDN:

Bunny's right, though, Fieldy's sound makes the discrepancies between his lines and the kick drum really obvious. You'd think they'd fix that stuff in Pro-Tools or something.

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Les Claypool has a clickety-clack sound. It works for HIS band, why not KoRn. I haven't heard much KoRn, so I can't comment on their specific sound. The little that I've heard was very rhythmic and atonal with no traditional Western harmony. In this context, using the bass as a percussion instrument might be a valid approach.

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I have not heard a lot of korn, but what I have heard I liked it. Now, if you knew me you would know that korn does not fit into my typical music selection. I am not running out to buy a CD, but maybe one day soon I will. And to turn onto the real reason this post was started, I don't mind his bass playing, it is his interpretation of what he wants to sound like and it does fit the music. So... yeah, rock on!

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Im not a huge kron fan, and the songs i ahve heard the bass wasnt anything special. And those were the few times that i coul dactually hear the bass over the cranked out low end of the drop tuned 7 string guitars.
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Originally posted by Dan South:

Les Claypool has a clickety-clack sound. It works for HIS band, why not KoRn. I haven't heard much KoRn, so I can't comment on their specific sound. The little that I've heard was very rhythmic and atonal with no traditional Western harmony. In this context, using the bass as a percussion instrument might be a valid approach.

Yea but Les is actually good... and practices...

 

F13@Y should play a 7 or more stringed bass, all strung with 135 guage strings. Imagine that, 7 or more Low B strings. F13@Y would be so UbEr. :D

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Originally posted by justinruins:

fieldy's bass sounds like a giant fart.

Aren't farts supposed to be funny? :confused:

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I actually like f!3ldY's bass work, somewhat. Like Erik said, it does work for what k0rN does.

 

Yeah, the f!3ldY sig bass is actually a pretty good bass, but for about $150-200 less, I could buy the brown mahogany Soundgear six, and tell f!3ldY to go screw himself to a telephone pole... :P:D

 

There... I had to get that out sometime. :freak:

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Originally posted by phil6006:

...a 7 or more stringed bass, all strung with 135 guage strings. Imagine that, 7 or more Low B strings....
You do realize that I am gonna walk around all day tomorrow bursting into fits of uncontrolled laughter, completely unable to explain myself...

 

Dm7.

 

ps. I wonder how 4 low B strings would sound on my Danelectro?

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"I do not care for mr. F1EldyZ playing. I also do not care for the fact that he knows that he sucks and he does nothing to better himself. He admits that he doesn't ever practice."

 

The thing to remember also is that some guys join bands to be famous and get chicks (OK we all do at first) but somewhere along the way a lot of us become musicians while others become celebrities or wannabe's. Music is a hard life with lots of sacrifices and I often wonder how many celebrity musicians would stick with it day in day out if they weren't getting the MTV perks.

 

If Fieldy wasn't in a famous band that makes 100 times more than what a working professional musician makes, I wonder if he would have the dedication to stick it out for the joy of music, not trappings. Since he admits he sucks and does nothing to better himself I'd go out on a limb to say No he wouldn't.

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No. He rocked, Korn rocked and their first and third albums really hit me. So he doesn't play bass like you're meant to, so he detunes, slaps weirdly and scoops out all his mids - whatever... They've made some good heavy music and it sounds like they really meant it. And they grooved.

 

Yeah, Fieldy ruled!

 

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I saw Fieldy with Korn a few years ago, I thought he was pretty good, at least he is individual in style and sound, which is the reason why whe're talking about him in the first place.

 

I don't actually own any Korn albums but I've jammed along to some tunes on the tely and they come as a welcome relief to the mind numbing boring sequenced commercial R&B tripe, or generic 8th note guitar pop thats everywhere at the moment.

 

As for Les, I dont think there's any similarity in tone between Les and Feildy at all, Les's tone on Antipop & Rhinoplasty was head and shoulders above the rest of his work and he's sounding more like Stanley Clarke (see the Primus cover or Silly Putty) than ever.

 

As for the clackety clack, I personally like bass to have a little top end presence, nothing worse than a boomy, indistinct bass sound, though I would admit Feildy is way out there with the treble.

 

He's definetely not my favourite bassist ever but

there's plenty of bassists out there who deserve the "you suck" comment more than Fieldy.

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Take away this guys effects rig that covers up the grim reality of what he is actually playing!

 

Then it will be obvious that instead of being in a high profile rock band, he should be working at k-mart supporting his family. and when hes not doing that maybee he can PRACTICE some damn music while hes there.

 

Whithout his fancy sound gear the guy is nothing.

But being the good hearted person that I am. I will offer him lessons if he has a desire to learn music someday.

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If you want to hear what "good" sounds like in a bass player, check out Jeff Berlin, Jimmy Haslip, or John Patitucci. If they don't convince you to repent your ways and ditch actors like Fieldy, I have a few others to recommend: Stanley Clarke, Ron Carter, Ray Brown,....still need help? Pray.
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Hey groove, your choices are ones I'd agree with, but don't ignore other genres of music!

 

my "short list":

 

for rock/metal:

Sir Paul McCartney

Steve DiGiorgio

Steve Harris

Geddy Lee

Jean-Yves Theriault (a.k.a. Blacky in Voivod)

John Myung (of course :) )

 

blues:

Hutch Hutchinson

Tommy Shannon

 

classical:

Edgar Meyer (there are others, but I can't remember 'em at the moment)

 

More later (maybe) ;)

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