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I have never been a rush fan and have never listened to Geddy, but now after the current thread I am kind of curious. What would be considered essential Geddy? I'm thinking I need to give him a listen.
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If I had to pick one to start with from Taz's list, I'd choose Moving Pictures -- not because it's my fave, 'cause it probably isn't, but because there are 2 tracks on it that are overplayed on the radio and could potentially be considered "essential" Rush listening: "Limelight" and "Tom Sawyer." There is also a 3rd instrumental that is generally considered relatively bad-ass, "YYZ."

 

A live video might also be good. I saw Rush in concert once, and I was really impressed by the live performance.

 

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Taz's list will get you started. I would add Grace Under Pressure. There's some good stuff on there. There's one called "Kid Gloves" that's rather interesting in that it starts in 5/4 time. Enjoy. I envy you. To have all of that music to look foreward to. Wow.
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The easiest thing to do would be to start out by buying their live albums, which come out once every fourth studio album, like clockwork: All The World's A Stage, Exit Stage Left, A Show Of Hands, and Different Stages, in order. Naturally, they put their own favorite tracks on a live album. that would be the most direct way to get yourself acquainted with their most classic material. Rush is required listening for bassists. Every bass player you have heard for the last thirty years has either been influenced by Geddy Lee, or by someone who was influenced by Geddy Lee. He's on the short list of great rock bassists.

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Geddy is the reason I am playing bass today. I was kind of a bragger when I was younger (middle school/high school) as I was a pretty good player - compared to everyone else in school. I was "challenged" by a friend to learn 2112.

 

That was humbling, but I did it. I was a huge RUSH fan through HS and college. Still am, but like most of us, have broadened my horizons.

 

I didn't see them live until last November. It was an AWESOME show. Forgot how much I liked them.

 

They also have a couple "Retrospective" CD's that cover early RUSH and later RUSH. Might be a good introduction.

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They put out a 2-disc set called "Chronicles." I'd go there; not to much outlay for a band you don't (yet) really dig that much, you don't have to worry about which album(s) to get, & all the "essential" songs are right there. (Then again, I tend to think everything from Presto on is non-essential, but that's me.) Great collection. Then you get to decide which actual songs you think are the most significant.
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I've always loved Hemisphere's. It was my first introduction to Rush and I was hooked. The whole 1st side is almost all instrumental. Then there's "The Trees". Then there's the instrumental La Villa Strangiato (An Exercise in Self-Indulgence).

 

Man I haven't listened to that in eons. Time to go digging!!

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You could also try "My Favorite Headache" It is Geddy's solo album. I feel that it contains both good bass work and composition.Some like it and some don't.

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I can say one thing about how Geddy has impacted my own playing: once I learned to play his bass lines and sing his vocal lines at the same time, everything else became a cakewalk.
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I would start with any of the following CD's/albums:

 

Moving Pictures

Permanent Waves

Signals

 

All three have a clean, accessible sound, great playing by all three members of the band, and some great songs (along with some lame ones - you'll have to sort through them).

 

Some highlights by CD:

 

Permanent Waves

 

The Spirit Of Radio

Free Will

 

Moving Pictures

 

Tom Sawyer

Red Barchetta

YYZ

Limelight

 

Signals

 

Subdivisions

Digital Man

New World Man

 

(Digital Man and New World Man have interesting ska-style rhythms.)

 

I'm less familiar with newer Rush. The older albums contain some classic songs like Trees and La Villa Strangiato, but some of the "theme" albums (Hemispheres, 2112) can test your patience, because half of the CD is essentially variations on the same theme. They were fun once I learned to play the songs, but a drag to listen to. The CD's that I mentioned at the top of the post are the most accessible in my opinion.

 

Good listening!!!

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Get the first Rush album.

 

That's when they still wished that they were Black Sabbath meeting AC/DC at a Yes concert.

 

Best of all: no annoying Neil Peart lyrics or excessive drum fills.

 

John Rutze RuLeZ!

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Originally posted by CMDN:

Get the first Rush album.

 

That's when they still wished that they were Black Sabbath meeting AC/DC at a Yes concert.

 

Best of all: no annoying Neil Peart lyrics or excessive drum fills.

 

John Rutze RuLeZ!

:D Are you trying to say that Peart's lyrics are a bit out there?

 

Worse yet, are you insinuating that Peart overplays?

 

If the latter is true, watch your back. If the average drummer reads that, you're toast. Oh, wait a minute, everyone knows the average drummer can't read. ;)

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The first album also had that cool little message on the back: "For best results, play at maximum volume." :thu:

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as a newb might i recommend one of their live compilations, as this gives a good sample of the various albums - their albums are entire pieces, very much defining the album era of composition.

 

one the most amazing things about rush is they perform like an opera, they nail the live performance as if it were the album, note for note, and in their sound reproduction - so there really is little difference between the two - the only real difference is in the recording of the audience, etc.

 

i'm reminded of a night partying once where a bunch of rush heads got in an argument because someone was playing one of the live albums that had a selection of tunes spanning albums, and thought they were listening to one of the albums.

 

if not, i recommend The Spirit of Radio because it has a bunch of tunes you'll probably instantly recognize because like led zep or the beatles, they are tunes you've probably heard before a million times, but never realised were rush. not to say by any means it's the best, rush is one of those where there is no best - just a wide variety.

 

i also recommend cranking the volume and really going for broke, rush is best played very, very loud imho.

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I feel that the live version of 2112 on "Different Stages" is the best! The rest of the CD(s) are great. Plus it has the CD of the Hammersmith Odeon show that was originally recorded during their "Hemispheres" tour. It offers a interesting contrast.

 

Tons 'o sonic goodies! :thu:

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Originally posted by CMDN:

Get the first Rush album.

 

That's when they still wished that they were Black Sabbath meeting AC/DC at a Yes concert.

 

Best of all: no annoying Neil Peart lyrics or excessive drum fills.

 

John Rutze RuLeZ!

I'm suprised no one mentioned "Caress of Steel" and "Fly By Night." There's a 3 album set floating around with these and "Rush," and you can sometimes see the CDs floating around in bargain bins (the horror!). I agree the others that have been mentioned are probably more ideal for the "definitive Geddy" (if there is such a thing), especially Chronicles.

 

I'm still waiting for some anthematic speed metal ban to cover "Bastille Day"- I used'ta love that album!

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If I had to just say one album, I'd say Permanent Waves. That album is absolutely amazing. Geddy's playing on songs like 'Freewill' and 'Spirit of Radio' are just, well, Geddy at it's finest. 'Entre Nous' is also just brilliant stuff and let us not forget the brilliant work on 'Natural Science'. God that song rules.

 

If I could go with a trio of albums, I'd have to echo what Dan already mentioned: Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, and Signals. There is so much amazing stuff in those three albums that it makes me ill. One song not mentioned in Dan's run down is 'Analog Kid'. ARRRGGH!!! That is one of my absolute favorite Rush songs ever. It's such a cool song and the bassline in it is just pure Geddy love. Please, do yourself a favor and at least download that damn song.

 

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Why did everyone forget "Hold Your Fire?" I know a lot of people say it was their worst album, but it had some really good tunes on it. "Time stand still" & "Lock & Key"

 

and what about "Carress of Steel?" In my oppinion it was their best album. "The Necromancer" was an absolutelty amazing song!

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Are you trying to say that Peart's lyrics are a bit out there?

 

Worse yet, are you insinuating that Peart overplays?

 

If the latter is true, watch your back. If the average drummer reads that, you're toast. Oh, wait a minute, everyone knows the average drummer can't read.

Let's see.

To answer your questions:

Yes and yes.

And... um... Well.... my drummer agrees with me on both of these subjects, so I don't care if I'm toast with other drummers. Screw 'em.

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The first album also had that cool little message on the back: "For best results, play at maximum volume."
The second album instructions are even better:

 

"For best results, play this album."

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One thing you could do is get a compilation, like The Spirit Of Radio sets, or Chronicles, and see which songs you like best, then go buy those original albums. Rush has been through many "eras" and some people prefer their early stuff, some their "prime years" (1978-1981), some the 80's stuff, etc.

 

If you want a few complete albums, I'd start with Permanant Waves, Moving Pictures, and 2112. Those, to me, are essential Rush albums - like, the ones people still talk about. Then, once you realize you've become an all-out Rush head, you must have them all. :D

 

After all, Rush has always been about creating albums that are meant to be listened to as a whole.

 

You will no doubt soon be hearing comments on their soon-to-be-released live DVD, out later this month. That might be a great place to start, it will cover all eras of the band's history ('cept Ged can't quite sing that high anymore).

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Well, I have start this one off with a disclaimer...I'm a relative newbie in the sence that I love music but can't say I'm a musician. So, that said, I can't believe not anyone has mentioned the bass solo to "Working Man"! Maybe its just me, but that is the stuff that made me start playing. To this day, when I hear that I get goosebumps...ok, not somuch now....but I used to!
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Originally posted by Thingus:

Why did everyone forget "Hold Your Fire?" I know a lot of people say it was their worst album, but it had some really good tunes on it. "Time stand still" & "Lock & Key"

 

and what about "Carress of Steel?" In my oppinion it was their best album. "The Necromancer" was an absolutelty amazing song!

"Force 10" is the song that made me want to pick up a bass, and it is also the first cool, difficult lick I ever learned. Boy, did I feel like Billy Badass the day I cranked that one out. Caress Of Steel was the second Rush album I ever got - because I found it on cassette for $3.99 at K-mart. :eek: And I am surprised that no one's ever covered "Bastille Day." It is an absolutely bone-crushing metal song. I mean, how metal is the phrase, "The guillotine has claimed her bloody prize"?

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I think I'm going bald!!

 

I've always loved the Necromancer. Kind of weird but man the bass line under the guitar solo just stomps. Then the guitar comes down out of the clouds on top of the bass line and they riff. That always got my adrenaline going.

 

Since we're touting Rush albums. I've always loved farewell to kings as well. Listen to the bass in Cinderella man. Xanadu, Closer to the heart.

 

OK time to load up the CD changer with Rush CD's and get my fix...

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