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4 track Recorder and Mics for recording LIve shows


Mr. Phil

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I am thinking of having my band an I split the cost (3 ways) of a cheap 4-track and 3 set of Mics.

This is what I had in Mind.

Fostex X-12 4 track

or

Tascam MFP01 4-track

for Microphones, this looked like a good deal with stands and cables:

Mics: Samson R21

Stands: Groove Pak Mic stands (3 of em

Cables: Groove 3 pak 20ft. Cables (I cant find em on Sam Ash.com)

 

Anyway, all of that Stuff is only $110 and I think that is good. The 4 track is $100 so we are looking at about $220 (with shipping) so thats not that bad...

 

Tell me what you guys think..

~Phil~

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By the way, The URLs didnt work on here, so Look the products up at Sam Ash.com
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There is a question you need to ask yourself: "what do I want to do with this equipment?" If you want to simply make demos of songs for the band guys, then the above equipment will serve you just fine. Remember that the tape decks you referenced can only record one track at a time. Even a your desktop computer can record 2 at a time with software that costs much less than a multi-track. I'm thinking specifically of Cakewalk's guitar tracks 2 (about $50 and almost zero learning curve).

With those tape decks, you won't get a great sound and it will have it's share of hiss unless you are using top notch everyting, which won't happen if you are recording to cassette.

Not to bash cassette too much, though. If you do go that route, get yourself a NEW deck that has simultaneous multi-track recording capabilities.

 

Get the stands, mics, and cables: you can NEVER have enough of the above. (yeah, I know qualiy counts, but quantity is very important when you just can't do without that last mic).

 

Don't buy your cassette deck used: the heads will be worn and the recording will suffer.

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Well, in general, those mini discs do a great job.

 

I do have another option, pretty cheap.

 

The Zoom MRS for $229. It's digital (but only records in 32K) and it does record in stereo...pretty vital.

 

Usable onboard mastering and effects, about the size of a cigar box. You can record rhythm tracks live and go back and dub vocals and solos.

 

Downside...no phantom power, so if you use condenser mics you'll need to buy other boxes.

 

Recording time on a 128K Smart media card is about an hour in stereo.

 

When you download to a computer, you'll have to get software (I use Steinberg) to convert to a 44.1K sampling rate so you can make an audio CD.

 

If your only use is to evaluate your practices, any cheap cassette will work. Much more than that requires more machine...you gotta balance money vs. need.

 

But I do agree...there is really no use in a cheap cassette machine anymore.

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I had no Idea that those 4 tracks dont record simultaneously!!

 

My guitarist has a Korg? $400 multi effects pedal with an 8 track digital recorder. Would that work?? (he like never uses it though cuz hes stupid and cant figure it out cuz hesa a guitarist.)

 

are there cassette recorders that can record multiple tracks (3+) at once? for not a lot of $$?

 

thanks

~phil~

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I don't know about the Korg...but I'll bet it has a low sampling rate, not a lot of memory...be kinda hard to burn from it.

 

Tascam has a 4 track cassette that records 4 mono tracks simultaneously...I think it is the 414.

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That Korg (pedal and recorder you say?) still probably only records 2 tracks at a time. I will concur with the minidisc recorder. You'll need a small 4 or 6 channel mixer that can accept xlr connections. These can be had very cheaply these days. If you are getting a feed from a FOH board, no mixer is needed.
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