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Where the Hell have I been? I watched the first hour of the MTV Movie Awards last night and The White Stripes were the first band to perform. Is MTV getting cool now or am I just out of the loop? I've never seen a band I've never heard of play an awards show. Those two rocked! Anybody else see it?
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Yeah, that was the song they played. I loved his singing style on it too. Since there is only him and his sister (that is his sister isn't it?) they got about 100 people on stage dressed in red and white looking like they were on American Bandstand in the 60's. I highly recommend catching it on the 50 million reruns of the Movie Awards. Eminem was pretty good too. Can't deny the guy's talent. I didn't bother watching after that, so I didn't catch Kelly Osbourne's Papa Don't Preach :rolleyes: Why pick that song and not put Ozzy in the video? She must have no sense of humor.
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He sounds a little like Black Francis (or Frank Black) especially on the 'I've said it once before but it bears repeating' line.
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Oh brother, another all hype, no content band. The Strokes made a bagrillion dollars, so now the pattern has to be repeated with bands like The Hives and White Stripes. This is nothing new, my friend. Someone at MTV heard that there was a huge buz about some band that no-one knew much about, so in order to appeal to the super chic "I know more bands than you do" crowd, they feature them on a major production. I guess these days it's all about looking cool in retro '70's punk clothes and being to cool to actually right a song, because who needs songs when your gimmick strikes gold. If you want to hear a truely original, creative band that is writing REALLY good music to boot, check out Sigor Ros. If you look in the liner notes, you will not find a picture of them, because you don't need to know how cool they look in order to apreciate the music. I can't help but think that the whole Strokes/Hives/Stripes thing is just another incarnation of the Emporer's new clothes. In order to address an in-evitable response, I'm not saying that the Stripes sound like the Strokes. It's the marketing that I am comparing. It's the fact that no-one would have bought the record if they didn't think everyone else was buying the record too.
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just out of curiosity, what is it that makes the strokes songs worthy of being called "not good song writing"? I'm asking because I don't get it. Most of the complaints I hear about them are that they are retro, or that there are other groups that do what they do that are better and I still don't get it. retro meaning that it was done before, whats wrong with that?, hard rock has been done before too and is now making a comeback, everything has been done before. and the fact that there are "other groups" that do the same style of music in the clubs of new york better than the strokes should have no bearing on whether the strokes songs sound good or not. I guess I just feel like there is alot of "i could do that too" attitude going on concerning these groups, but i like the strokes, i think their lyrics melodies and vocals are catchy, and if there is another group that sounds better, then i'd probably like them too, but what is so bad about the strokes? :confused:
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My impression last night is that the dude is a decent songwriter and guitar player - not great, but good for his style of music. The drummer is really kinda sucky. The beats are overly simplistic and her timing is pretty all over the place. I like the songs, but my personal opinion has always been that a band's 'goodness' is usually predicated on how good their rhythm section is. When the rhythm section is comprised of a mediocre, at best, drummer and no bass at all, the band just can't get beyond mediocre. I have to agree on the marketing thing. I hear better bands every damn day that just don't have the gimmick. Drew
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Yes, I agree that the strokes are doing things that have already been done. That's not the problem. I'll save the conversation about the value of replicating something that has already been done for some other time. So let's asume that somehow doing something that has already been done is a good thing. If that is the case, please don't try to tell me how original and inventive they are (which, by the way, is what every strokes/stripes/hives/ fan will try to tell you). :rolleyes: Personally, I find it boring and derivitive to hear some style of music from the past regurgitated with near copyright infringement accuracy. If I want to listen to '70's punk, then why not listen to punk from the '70's?
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your argument sounds a little on the thin side to me velvet, i agree that they are not original, but do they have to be in order to be good, i don't think so, and there is nothing wrong with 70's punk but are you saying that because its not the 70's anymore that no one should make that kind of music? I don't think the strokes or lenny kravitz would sound good doing anything but what they do. I'd hate to see them on stage doing eminem, bjork, radiohead, nsync, or lincoln park. so what type of up todate sound should they have, if you were producing them what would you tell them to sound like. Puddle of Mud, No doubt, Moby I don't think so. :)
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I heard Sigur Ros and thought ok, here's music for the overly pretentious. I heard The Hives and thought it's amazing, you think you couldn't do a dam thing original with the same three chords and some attitude and then every once in awhile someone comes out and just has that jump that kicks you in the ass and makes you wanna dance like a fool.
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i heard the white stripes AGES ago... in fact, i think benjy king was playing them over the phone to me and i happen to see a video of their later on that week. long before the strokes came out. i think they sound pretty cool. maybe i will buy their album one day. now for a boy/girl two piece band who kicks ass and needs no bassist check out jucifer.

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Quote: so what type of up todate sound should they have, if you were producing them what would you tell them to sound like. Puddle of Mud, No doubt, Moby I don't think so. I think you are missing a big point. If I had to tell them what to sound like, that would ruin the whole experience. I find great joy in coming across a band that I had never of and being able to say, "Wow, I would have NEVER thought to try this, but man this sounds GOOD!" That's what makes it all worth while to me. The Lord of the Rings is my favorite novel, bar none. If someone where to write a book today that is suposed to be just like Lord of the Rings, and touted to be authentic in the style of JRR. Tolkien, I really wouldn't be interested in reading it. I would much prefer something original over a molded copy of something from the past. Don't get me wrong, originality by itself is worthless. I'll use Yoko Ono to make that point. The truely valuable bands and authors are original, while at the same time, offering something of some value to the community. Quote: I heard Sigur Ros and thought ok, here's music for the overly pretentious. Intersting. I bought the album after hearing the first three songs, and without hearing ONE THING about them thru word of mouth, or magazines. That's right, I had never heard of them before I plucked it out of my friends CD case and gave it a listen, and was blown away. On the other hand, everyone I know that owns a Strokes or Stripes album said they bought it because they wanted to know what all the hype was about. Which on sounds pretentious to you? (I left the hives out of this because to date, none of my friends have bought the Hives album.)
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Trick fall, I decided that I could at least give the Hives one more chance, so I downloaded three songs which I am currently listening to. I think that part of the reason that it doesn't appeal to me is the fact that i have never felt much of an urge to dance like a fool. I guess I would rather contemplate the deeper things in life than dance. I've always kinda been that way. Maybe some day I should let loose, but until then, I think I will stick with my current music collection. Thanks for helping me relize this.
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The White Stripes are married, some site had a scan of their marriage license. I dig 'em, and the newer Hives stuff. Their old material sounds like generic Black Flag-esque hardcore. Now they're doing The Stooges better than the real thing: 'cuz the real ones were fuckups who stumbled onto greatness now & then, but these guys are consistent pros. Can't see why anybody would lump The Strokes in with these other 2 bands though. The Strokes' sound is retro, sure, but in a mid-'80s Smiths Britpop way. Not American blues or garage rock. Don't ever discount the visceral. If you do-get outta grad skool; get laid; then report back.
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Saw the white strips on the MTV award show, and never heard em' before. Thought they sucked. Maybe it was the song they were playing. Maybe it's because I listen to too much Pink Floyd. Maybe it's because that today' music is so formula that anything that sounds even remotely different is hailed as groundbreaking.... :confused: Take me back 30 years.... :bor:
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Saw the white strips on the MTV award show, and never heard em' before. Thought they sucked. Maybe it was the song they were playing. Maybe it's because I listen to too much Pink Floyd. Maybe it's because that today' music is so formula that anything that sounds even remotely different is hailed as groundbreaking.... :confused: Take me back 30 years.... :bor:
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>> Someone at MTV heard that there was a huge buz about some band that no-one knew much about, so in order to appeal to the super chic "I know more bands than you do" crowd, they feature them on a major production.>> Well, if that's the strategy, it must not be working too well. They're in every magazine, a lot of the stores are pushing them, they're in this week's Newsweek... The super-chic "I know more bands than you do" crowd, if there's such a thing, must be really disappointed... >> If you want to hear a truely original, creative band that is writing REALLY good music to boot, check out Sigor Ros.>> I like them. Don't love them, but I like them. It's something a little different. I prefer The Cocteau Twins to them a bit, but they're pretty good. I love Bjork's "Homogenic", which I thought was the most Bjork-like thing she's conceived, very original and wreaking of personality. I liked some of the Godspeed, You Black Emperor and Mogwai stuff (mostly "Young Team", but have been bored by their later output. Hmmmm...for things that sound truly new and unique to my ear, I find myself listening to a LOT of music from countries around the world -- Burundi, Central African Republic, Laos, Afro-Columbian music, etc. -- and electronic music. These are two areas in which I hear a lot of fresh new things, at least to my set of ears.
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[quote]Originally posted by thisDude: [b]The new album is so good, I started making out with my sister.[/b][/quote]It sez y'all are from Florida. Ah didn't think yew could do that unless y'all wuz from Kintucky or Arkansas... I was amazed at how many people, friends of mine...some quite good musicians, too, really liked that Strokes hit when it came out. It was a catchy tune, kinda like Motown Punk or something. At any rate...I won't deny them their moment in the spotlight...20 years from now, when the oldies station plays "Last Night"...the ol' foot'll start a'tappin' and I'll be remembering good ol' 2001-02...
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Tedster said: [quote] I was amazed at how many people, friends of mine...some quite good musicians, too, really liked that Strokes hit when it came out. It was a catchy tune, kinda like Motown Punk or something. [/quote]...and the musical pendulum sways to and (a)fro
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I would call the White Stripes a garage band instead of punk, and I think they do a damn good job of it. I've listened to some more of their stuff and they have a few songs that veer into blues and country. Nothing like The Strokes, IMO. The song Hotel Yorba sounds like the Ramones going country, or maybe it was Country Joe and the Fish. Personally I think it's refreshing to see The Strokes or White Stripes or The Hives get some airplay.
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