Bartolini Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Any of you guys use stage monitors (i.e. JBL ?) ? What is the purpose of this if you've got a thundering bass sound kickking your ass from behind? Anyway, if you have one on your own, how does this work? (i.e. connection to monitor is off your rig?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartolini Posted July 17, 2003 Author Share Posted July 17, 2003 er, forgot to ask about how to choose the Wattage. A monitor's got to match your amp's Wattage, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fig Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 What is the purpose of this if you've got a thundering bass sound kickking your ass from behind? That's the reason exactly, actually. Since you're playing loud, alot of times the sound onstage is mushy, drowning out the other instruments. So, with a stage monitor pointing at you (or an in-ear monitor), you can dial in other instruments or vocals to be directed at you, which brings them to you clear of the stage volume/mish-mash. Since you can hear your bass thundering behind you, you don't need that dialed into your monitor. If your bass is drowned out, then you do want some bass put into your monitor. If you sing, also have that put into your monitor to hear yourself better. I also usually put in some kick-drum into my monitor. That's for small stages. With larger stages, I usually add a few more instruments. So in a nutshell, it makes the instruments and vocals of your choice stand out for your benefit above the noisy stage volume. Hope that helped about the purpose of the monitors. A monitor is not connected to your amp at all. It's connected to the PA mixing board equipment. Since your amp and all other instruments/vocals run to the mixing board, that's where the monitors are connected so the sound guy can send out the instruments/vocals you want into your monitor. Bassplayers aren't paid to play fast, they're paid to listen fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartolini Posted July 17, 2003 Author Share Posted July 17, 2003 Thanks fig. That says all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickT Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 I almost wet myself with surprise and excitement when the engineer at a function gig asked me what I wanted in MY monitor!!!! A monitor all to myself with my very own mix in it all for me. I couldn't really think of anything more specific than "A bit of everything please." Free your mind and your ass will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skout Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Where my friend's band practices, they have what I would like to put a "mini recording studio." It is basically 4 microphones (2 for drums, and 2 for vocals) those and all of their instruments go through a sound equalizer. The sound from the equalizer then goes through a JBL stage monitor. The sound from the monitor goes through either a 8 track or camera, both of which are used for different situations. The sound comes out alright for the guitar, drums, and vocals, but the bass line is shrouded within that, maybe it is just a technical issue . . . Skout Words of Inspiration: Not everyone needs to be Jaco. Sometimes your band just needs a bass player, somebody to just play root notes - Dirk Lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJR Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 ...but what do you do when the stage is 40' by 30' ????? http://www.5centmary.com/DBB_from3rowsout.jpg You need monitors to hear everything as you wander about the stage......even the drums get lost on a stage that large. On That gig I had 2 large floor monitors at my vocal mic....and 2 large side blow monitors directly to my left. I worked out with the monitor guy what type of mix I wanted/needed in each. I could really only hear from my bass rig when I wasn't singing...and stepped back towards it. Most everything else was coming from the monitors. PJR 5CentMary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fig Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 LOL. PJR, that's about the size of the stage when we opened for Molly Hatchet a few weeks ago. Like yours, is was monitors across the stage and side blowers. And I couldn't hear my rig either. Shouldn't have even brought it, actually. Ahh, hindsight is great. I hadn't done anything like that in years. It really was great having the sound guys just take care of everything. Even their stage hands helped us haul our equipment around. Good folks. Well, back to schlepping my stuff.... Bassplayers aren't paid to play fast, they're paid to listen fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Sweet Willie_ Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 What kind of wimpy backline did they supply you with anyway, PJR? That was the Fiesta Bowl party in AZ, right? If the monitor sound is high quality, maybe it's a little less important to hear you rig anyway... Maybe next time you can get a couple of Megoliath 8x10s, with some kind of preamp, powered by some big-ass Crown power -- a couple o' K2s anyone? spreadluv Fanboy? Why, yes! Nordstrand Pickups and Guitars. Messiaen knew how to parlay the funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJR Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Originally posted by Sweet Willie: What kind of wimpy backline did they supply you with anyway, PJR? That was the Fiesta Bowl party in AZ, right? If the monitor sound is high quality, maybe it's a little less important to hear you rig anyway... Maybe next time you can get a couple of Megoliath 8x10s, with some kind of preamp, powered by some big-ass Crown power -- a couple o' K2s anyone? I really had my choice. Knowing I'd have full PA support......I opted for a SWR SM900 driving a SWR Goliath III. It was plenty......considering I got most of my sound from the sideblows..... http://www.5centmary.com/PJR_goodshot.jpg The headliner's ( Collective Soul ) bass rig was 2 ( or 3 ...don't remember ) SVT 8-10's stacked on their side.....with 2 SVT pro4's driving.....although most was for looks...as only 1 cab was really hooked up. I checked. PJR 5CentMary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 P Bass Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Originally posted by Peter J Romano: The headliner's ( Collective Soul ) bass rig was 2 ( or 3 ...don't remember ) SVT 8-10's stacked on their side.....with 2 SVT pro4's driving.....although most was for looks...as only 1 cab was really hooked up. I checked. PJRThat seems so silly to me. What is even sillier is when you see some cover band in Hartford CT. filling a hole in the wall with a SVT 8 x 10, and a full Marshall stack! "Start listening to music!". -Jeremy C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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