Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 who's the best between the two in your opinion? I think that after Zender had gone away jamiroquai is not the group was 'till "Travelling without moving"... from "Synchronized" on the rithmic section is not the same without stuart... However this evening i'll go to listen their gig in Brescia!!! Does anyone know wich tipe of bass uses zender? thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skout Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Originally posted by @: Does anyone know wich tipe of bass uses zender? thank you.According to a picture I saw of him recently, Zender uses a custom Warwick Streamer Stage 1 or 2. Skout Words of Inspiration: Not everyone needs to be Jaco. Sometimes your band just needs a bass player, somebody to just play root notes - Dirk Lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skout Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 http://www.simscustom.com//artists/images/gallery/sz1.jpg There it is, by the looks of it, it is a custom Warwick Streamer Stage 2. Skout Words of Inspiration: Not everyone needs to be Jaco. Sometimes your band just needs a bass player, somebody to just play root notes - Dirk Lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickT Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Stuart Zender played through neck Streamers. Jamiroquai ain't the same without him. Nick Fyffe is ok...but his playing just doesn't have the same amount of personality as Stuart Zender's. Free your mind and your ass will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLoy Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Stuart Zender is a freak of nature. He taught himself to play by learning all of Jaco's lines off of "Black Market". He says it took him two weeks. Either he's lying or he's a phenomenal talent. Either way, he's a great bassist. I haven't heard Nick, so I won't comment on his playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower8 Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Don't know much about Jamiraquoi cept they were the "band with the digeridoo" and then had the one hit "Virtual Insanity"... The lead singer wants to be Stevie Wonder (and there are worse people to emulate)... And, from what I heard, the bassist was good... Didn't even know they were still around... or had changed bassists... "Tea & Cake, or Death!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 I liked Stuart's playing waaayy more. Nick was playing in a Jamiraquoi cover band when he was discovered by Jay Kay. I've always liked the band except in interviews where Jay says, "I did this, I wrote this, etc." Stuart's bass lines were pretty nice, Nick's seem kind of generic to me. And of course they don't know me, but I'd be perfect for that band, even though I'm at least 20 years older than everyone else in it. What's Mr. Zender doing since he left the band? Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickT Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Nick Fyffe was asked to audition for the tribute band just after he had got the Jamiroquai gig. (He had called the triubute several months earlier to be told they weren't auditioning at the time.) The reason JK uses the "I" word a lot, is because he is the one with the deal. The core of the band has been pretty stable (guitar, bass, drums and keys) but JK is the guy who signed the deal. From what I have heard the band get a good deal from the stuff that they do, way better than they would get if they were session players. They also get song writing credits and publishing money as appropriate. On the Stevie Wonder thing...rubbish. It's like saying that Oasis sound like the Beatles. Yeah there is an influence there clearly. But that was a comparison made by a lazy journalist that has stuck and now gets repeated as though it is some great piece of wisdom. I am surprised that this thread hasn't excited more comment and interest on this forum. I would have thought that Jamiroquai would be celebrated amongst bass players for bringing a fusion of dance, funk and disco (three genres where the bass is king) into the mainstream. (They may not have made it so big in the US. Their label over there thought they were too "acid jazz" whatever the hell that is.) Free your mind and your ass will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLoy Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Funny, my friends remarked "Hmmm...new Stevie Wonder record?" upon hearing Jamiroquai for the first time in my car. Stevie's influence is clear, but they don't sound exactly like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 16, 2003 Author Share Posted July 16, 2003 Yesterday I've gone at the gig in brescia....it has been a very beautifull gig. Before the concert I thought it wouldn't have been a great concert for the lack of stuart but it has been nice. I was at 10 meters more or less from the stage so that I heard the concert quite well some friends of mine who were behind said that they had heard very few of the concert. The rithmic section is the one of my dreams, the drummer and the percussionist are amazing, they jammed for a few minutes toward the end and passed various styles and rithmics that made the people dance (you know..."there was nothing left to do but DANCE!!"). Some songs were arranged in another way from the original version for the lack of the trumpets, this made all more interesting and groovy, and some of the songs had a section during wich you felt like being at the disco. The stage was very simple no excessive lightenings or effects, just the stage and a little stair on wich JK jumped some times during the gig. Nick Fyffe is what i thik him he is... a good bassist but he isn't "the one" for a band like this; also the old songs (like Mr. Moon) where a little less groovy, his stile is clean (as is expected from a pro) but not as personal as the one of the great players. They opened with "use the force" the other songs (in no order) were:Just Another Story, Mr Moon, Scam, Cosmic Girl, Alright, High Times, Canned Heat, Soul Education, Butterfly, Deeper Underground,Little L, You give me something, Love foolosophy, and some others of the last cd that I don't know since I haven't the new record. What to say... for me it has been the first time i heard the live it has been nice but i would have been there when they released "travelling without mooving"....that should have been a great gig just for the songs of the three albums. greetings from Italy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc_dup1 Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Stuart Zender is a freak of nature. He taught himself to play by learning all of Jaco's lines off of "Black Market". In an interview I read he said it took him a year. That's still pretty freakish though, if true. Zender and Jay Kay did not get on and from interviews it's not hard to see why - both have egos the size of mainland China. Jay Kay had the deal and the profile, Zender thought he was the one with the talent. Good as Zender is, though, Jay Kay has prospered better without Stuart than Stuart has without him - a harsh lesson for bass players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 16, 2003 Author Share Posted July 16, 2003 Originally posted by jeremyc: What's Mr. Zender doing since he left the band?I red on http://www.bassmaster.co.uk/ he is comin' out with a solo project, but i don't know other particulars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWBass Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Stewart Zender News........... www.myspace.com/thefunkfather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassingeorge Posted July 20, 2003 Share Posted July 20, 2003 Hmm very good question SKOUT, I love the way stu plays; he's so smooth and so damn good!! I like his playing better than nix, but nick plays very cool too! Less complexity on nix b-lines, and there more like disco lines than jazzy zender signiture b-lines. Zender uses Warwick steamers, and nick uses ZON basses. Got bass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickT Posted July 20, 2003 Share Posted July 20, 2003 Last I saw...Nick Fyffe was endoursing, or at least his face was being used in ads for, Yamaha basses. Free your mind and your ass will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skout Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Originally posted by bassingeorge: Hmm very good question SKOUT, . ???? Words of Inspiration: Not everyone needs to be Jaco. Sometimes your band just needs a bass player, somebody to just play root notes - Dirk Lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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