jimbojones Posted July 9, 2003 Posted July 9, 2003 I'm going for my second bass, and I narrowed it down to either a warwick corvette 5 http://www.kostis.net/bitmap/Warwick-Corvette-Standard-5.jpg or a Spector NS4CRFM http://www.riksmusic.com/spector/pics/cr4fm.jpg I'm in to the whole heavy metal picksound. I absolutly love to tone of Jason Newsted's bass on the black album (metallica), and it would be cool if I could get a sound thats close to that. The corvette is about 50$ cheaper. What are your thoughts and opinions. -James primus sucks
GeorgeR Posted July 9, 2003 Posted July 9, 2003 spector vs. warwickI use my Spector NS2000B 4 string, through my Warwick CCL amp regularly. How about that? Seriously, it's a tough call - both sound great to me. Seems like it's gonna come down to splitting hairs. Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; one lick and you suck forever.
alexclaber Posted July 9, 2003 Posted July 9, 2003 Originally posted by jimbojones: I'm going for my second bass, and I narrowed it down to either a warwick corvette 5 or a Spector NS4CRFM. I'm in to the whole heavy metal picksound. I absolutly love to tone of Jason Newsted's bass on the black album (metallica), and it would be cool if I could get a sound thats close to that. The corvette is about 50$ cheaper. What are your thoughts and opinions. Hmmm... Well my first reaction is, how have you narrowed your options down to just two basses but each with a different number of strings? That's weird. Secondly, Warwicks and Spectors may look alike but they sound COMPLETELY different - in simple terms, Warwicks growl, Spectors thunder. Jason's never used Warwicks but whilst he recorded most of Load with an '81 Spector he used Alembics exclusively for The Black Album. Your best bet of those two is the Spector but if I were you I'd widen your net and play as many basses as you can before you buy - even if you love the tone of a bass you may not get on with the neck, the balance, the weight etc. Alex Barefaced Ltd - ultra lightweight, high ouput, toneful bass cabs
rumpelstiltskin. Posted July 9, 2003 Posted July 9, 2003 spector is well-loved by metal players for giving them a good metal sound. think mike inez from alice in chains or rex brown from pantera. of course, i guess corey from slipknot plays a corvette if i'm not mistaken. they're heavy, right? also, the bass tones on better than ezra's first album, "deluxe", are really great. they're also spector-driven. i don't know if i'm playing the wrong spector or what it is i'm doing, because i never seem to like the sounds i make from them, even with a pick. i think i haven't really ever played a good spector. it's that, or i'm just a terrible, p player. i like warwick, but i think you'd probably be happier with the (or a) spector. robb. because i like people.
Skout Posted July 9, 2003 Posted July 9, 2003 Originally posted by robb.: of course, i guess corey from slipknot plays a corvette if i'm not mistaken. they're heavy, right? robb.According to an advertisement Warwick sent me when I got my Thumb, Paul Gray uses a Warwick Thumb Neck Through(4-String). I would agree with most posts above me though, Spector is good for heavy metal. Also, look through previous posts, there are tons of posts on Spectors, Ibanez, Carvin, and Warwicks for heavy metal. Skout Words of Inspiration: Not everyone needs to be Jaco. Sometimes your band just needs a bass player, somebody to just play root notes - Dirk Lance
Tom Capasso Posted July 9, 2003 Posted July 9, 2003 Another aspect of your photos is that the Warwick looks like it is made from ash. Most of what I've seen and heard has been bubinga (or ovankol for other Warwick models). The weight and sound is probably a bit different. I think the sounds would be very different between the Spector and the Warwick. I could imagine either would work for you. I would also be interested in how you narrowed down to these two basses. How someone chooses a bass is of great interest to me. Good luck Tom www.stoneflyrocks.com Acoustic Color Be practical as well as generous in your ideals. Keep your eyes on the stars and keep your feet on the ground. - Theodore Roosevelt
jimbojones Posted July 9, 2003 Author Posted July 9, 2003 I just realized that on A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica, it really looks like Jason newsted is using a black spector while recording the black album. According to C.Alexander Claber and many websites, he used alembics for the black album. Am I wright or wrong? I tried getting pictures but I couldn't find any. primus sucks
73 P Bass Posted July 9, 2003 Posted July 9, 2003 Both look like great basses, but you have to let your ears decide! Play both basses through the same rig, and choose the one that sounds best TO YOU!! . No one can tell you what you thinks sounds best. For you to be truly happy with your purchase, you have to be subjective, and make the choice for yourself. "Start listening to music!". -Jeremy C
Bass Burp Posted July 9, 2003 Posted July 9, 2003 Either is a good choice. If you really need the 5 go with the warwick. If you can stand having the 4 ...spector is a great choice, me being the owner of a maple 5 string, I am very happy. The 4 string actually has a sweeter tone, more hifi sounding. Another guy in church have a covette pro 5 and it lacks the snap that mine puts out. It does growl...but the spector has a thru-body neck for great sustain. verdict. That spector has a nicer finish, great construction, Quiet, and a thunderous punch. an 18 volt system is even more potent! Shake the foundations with praise! --When all else fails play one note. Check out my Church, I'm in there somewhere holdin' the spector5: http://www.ecalvary.net/news/june/revival_gallery_01/index.html
Bass Burp Posted July 9, 2003 Posted July 9, 2003 Here's a picture of me on that 5. Sweet! Just click address at the bottom.... --When all else fails play one note. Check out my Church, I'm in there somewhere holdin' the spector5: http://www.ecalvary.net/news/june/revival_gallery_01/index.html
Bass Burp Posted July 9, 2003 Posted July 9, 2003 sorry dude, I had to update my profile for it to go directly to the actual photo. Hope this works. --When all else fails play one note. Check out my Church, I'm in there somewhere holdin' the spector5: http://www.ecalvary.net/news/june/revival_gallery_01/index.html
bassingeorge Posted July 10, 2003 Posted July 10, 2003 Oooh...man..difficuly decision right?! I have to say pick the spector, it has that metal edge and sizzle, but, if you play with fingers and play the lowB a lot just pick the warwick...Oh, and the spector is flashier (looks) Got bass?
Sylver Posted July 10, 2003 Posted July 10, 2003 They are both really nice basses, but I think the Spectors play a bit better than the Warwicks. I really don't know what to put here.
gearjammer Posted July 10, 2003 Posted July 10, 2003 I thought Jason Newstead played a Sadowsky 5 string, or was this a recent change.
... Posted July 10, 2003 Posted July 10, 2003 The Chezch made Spectors are great basses. Spectors are kinda the 'ultimate' in metal bass tone. Nice and big and beefy. Oh yeah, and Newkid was playing Sadowsky's primarily. He had something like 9 of them made by Sadowsky and paid full price for all of them. I read that he really liked their tone and durability for the rigors of touring.
gearjammer Posted July 10, 2003 Posted July 10, 2003 Ok,touring basses.Sadowsky sure got over on that deal.
alexclaber Posted July 10, 2003 Posted July 10, 2003 Originally posted by Bass Burp: [QB]Either is a good choice. If you really need the 5 go with the warwick. If you can stand having the 4 ...spector is a great choiceQB]I still don't understand - both companies make 4 and 5 strings, so the number of strings you need shouldn't come into it in that way. In fact, it should be the other way around, I think Warwick makes much better fours than fives (their fives growl but they're rather floppy and lacking in punchy attack on the B-string) and Spector makes better fives. I believe Jason used Sadowskys on Reload (it certainly sounds like that). I've done a bit more investigating about The Black Album and there doesn't seem to be anything definitive about which bass he used. However, once you put the bass through an amp, miced up a cab and applied post-effects I wouldn't be surprised if an Alembic and a Spector sounded very similar (both through necks, active pickups and electronics, heavy brass bridges, predominantly hard maple construction). Alex Barefaced Ltd - ultra lightweight, high ouput, toneful bass cabs
Tom Capasso Posted July 10, 2003 Posted July 10, 2003 Hey JimBoJones, We'd all like to know if you are considering a 5 string Warwick and a 4 string Spector, or if you just used pictures with the right woods and other options. Please clarify - inquiring minds want to know!! Tom www.stoneflyrocks.com Acoustic Color Be practical as well as generous in your ideals. Keep your eyes on the stars and keep your feet on the ground. - Theodore Roosevelt
PJR Posted July 10, 2003 Posted July 10, 2003 Originally posted by Tom Capasso: Hey JimBoJones, We'd all like to know if you are considering a 5 string Warwick and a 4 string Spector, or if you just used pictures with the right woods and other options. Please clarify - inquiring minds want to know!! TomYou're just a gear junkie Tom...in need of a fix . PJR 5CentMary
jimbojones Posted July 11, 2003 Author Posted July 11, 2003 Hey JimBoJones, We'd all like to know if you are considering a 5 string Warwick and a 4 string Spector, or if you just used pictures with the right woods and other options. Please clarify - inquiring minds want to know!! TomI'm not quite sure what your asking, but I'll give it a shot. Yes, I am considering to purchase either the spector or the warwick. I have spent about a year trying out basses as I get more cash for the big exciting day (I'm only 14). I have tried Jazz basses, precision, and stingrays as well, and my favorites were the the these models (spector euro ns, and warwick corvette 5). I plan to buy one of the two. Also, the reason I am not interested in the spector version in a five string is because I haven't found one anywere to try out, and that it is s little out of my price range. But the spector in the picture (natural finish) is not what I would have in mind, I justed wanted to get a picture of the model regardless of the color. primus sucks
Tom Capasso Posted July 11, 2003 Posted July 11, 2003 Thanks JimBo, For many of us, the number of strings is such a key part of the decision that we couldn't compare the two basses you mentioned. I stepped up to 5 in the last year, and the difference is pretty substantial to me. As to finding something to try, talk to your retailer first - they may be able to bring one in. Then talk to the manufacturer - they may know of one in a nearby area that you could get to. PJR - you are soooo right !! Tom www.stoneflyrocks.com Acoustic Color Be practical as well as generous in your ideals. Keep your eyes on the stars and keep your feet on the ground. - Theodore Roosevelt
ozman16 Posted July 13, 2003 Posted July 13, 2003 Originally posted by jimbojones: I just realized that on A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica, it really looks like Jason newsted is using a black spector while recording the black album. According to C.Alexander Claber and many websites, he used alembics for the black album. Am I wright or wrong? I tried getting pictures but I couldn't find any.He certainly is using a black Spector in every shot you can see him recording, and played Spectors live when I saw them in '93 (when they were still gods!), but I've seen him play Alembics live too (check the videos on "Live Sh*t: Binge & Purge"... all Alembics). Don't think he could get that thunderous tone recording on an Alembic though, I know I never could. It wasn't until later that he switched to the Sadowsky's. Also of notice, the liner notes in the black album say Newsted played Steinberger, which personally, I think was a faux pas, and should say that he played the Ned Steinberger designed Spector NS. That being said, being the owner of 3 Spectors and a Warwick, I'd get the Czech made Spector (I'd even save up for the 5-string. I have one... and it HAS the tone you're looking for to play metal), but the EMG 45DC pickups make playing with a pick kind of hard. They're kind of bulky, but I play with my fingers anyway.
NickT Posted July 13, 2003 Posted July 13, 2003 Mike Inez plays a pair of Warwick Stage 1 Streamers (or at least he did a few years ago) and Rex from Panters plays Spectors I think. Free your mind and your ass will follow.
cramp Posted July 14, 2003 Posted July 14, 2003 I have a corvette proline 5 and love it. not sure about the spector, but the warwick has very adjustable setup ability. It sounds lower then my others, so I play through an Aguilar db 924 and boosts it to a great tone.
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