alexclaber Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 Right, well my Lovetone Meatball has gone to a more loving owner, as it was far too complicated and difficult to repeat settings for me - plus how could I hang on to a pedal that I could sell for $600! So now begins the search for something more suited to live use - i.e. relatively easy to tune in to the exact sound I want or programmable. The options appear to be: Original Mutron III Reissue Mutron III+ EH Q-Tron EBS BassIQ Line6 FM4 Roger Linn Adrenalinn The filter will be after my TE Compressor and I'll be using active basses with it. I will have volume pedal after the filter so slight volume changes won't be a problem. True bypass would be preferable, a small footprint would be nice but looks unlikely. Price is an issue but I'm patient and willing to wait until the right thing comes up on ebay. Help me, there are far too many choices! Alex Barefaced Ltd - ultra lightweight, high ouput, toneful bass cabs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickT Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 I would go for the Line 6 FM4. FOr the same price as the Mu-Trons you get a Mu-Tron plus a whole bunch of other stuff. There is also a wet/dry mix. (DOUBLE BONUS). I run my FM4 with an active bass without any problems. The filter sounds are PHAT, the weird sounds are weird as hell and the synths are nasty and gloopy and tuneable as well. This pedal is a steal, well worth the money. Add to this the fact that you can hook up an expresion pedal and use it to sweep between two sets of parameters on the same patch, what more could you want. My FM4 sits after my Sovtek Big Muff in the signal chain, an envloped fuzz sounds huge and weird. The FM4 is a great buy, it will do everything that the other pedals will do and more, much much more. Free your mind and your ass will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted June 13, 2003 Author Share Posted June 13, 2003 Originally posted by NickT: I run my FM4 with an active bass without any problems.Sounds impressive - what bass do you use, is it 9V or 18V? Alex Barefaced Ltd - ultra lightweight, high ouput, toneful bass cabs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 I've got three of those... Original Mu-tron III EBS BassIQ Electro-Harmonix Q-Tron plus a Seamoon Funk Machine. For small footprint, you have to go with the EBS. The others are very large and also have large power supplies. They all have their pluses and minuses. It's pretty hard to describe a sound here. Contact me off-list and I'll give you a little more information. Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Robert Rennix Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 I wouldn't leave out the two Digitech envelope filter pedals. I can't remember their exact names, but Digitech has both guitar and bass specific envelope filters in their "Audio DNA" single effect pedal line. I've played the guitar specific envelope pedal and it's very funky. The Digitech pedals have these "morph" knobs that allow you to select between different pedal models. On the envelope filter pedal, you can get sounds that range from a very sensitive, traditional envelope filter, to effects that add suboctaves, filters and other synth effects. All the sounds are really usable and cool. If the bass specific envelope filter is anything like the guitar version, it would be pretty cool. A few other pedals not on your list (maybe for good reason) include the DOD, Boss and Guyatone envelope filters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted June 13, 2003 Author Share Posted June 13, 2003 Originally posted by jeremyc: Contact me off-list and I'll give you a little more information.Ah, but if you tell me off-list, future people won't be able to use THE SEARCH FUNCTION! Regarding footprint, I've got a 30"x16" pedalboard IIRC, but it's filling up fast. However I might just have to do something with shelves or move the volume pedal off the board if the ideal filter pedal is rather large. I have a JuiceBox power supply which does 9V, 13.2V & 18V DC and 9V AC - would that be able to power your pedals? I don't really want to have to add another power supply as this is a very elegant, reliable and low noise solution. My concern with the EBS is that it's just not squelchy enough, whilst the original Mutron is expensive and possibly unreliable and difficult to adjust - what do you think, how does the Q-Tron compare soundwise, have you tried a reissue Mutron? Is the EBS as easy as it looks to change from a bwah to a dyump to a quack? (With or without distortion, of course) So many questions, so little time... Alex Barefaced Ltd - ultra lightweight, high ouput, toneful bass cabs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickT Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 My bass is an Andy Vickers Custom V and it runs on one 9v battery. Free your mind and your ass will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addix Metzatricity Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 I've also got the FM4. I love it, but it's got kind of a steep learning curve. You're gonna need to sit and play with it for awhile, but it's well worth it. The FM4's the only one that I know of with a true bypass, and it's programmable (4 patches). I use it with my active Washburn 6. "Bass isn't just for breakfast anymore..." http://www.mp3.com/Addix_Metzatricity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wraub Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 Originally posted by jeremyc: I've got three of those... Original Mu-tron III EBS BassIQ Electro-Harmonix Q-Tron plus a Seamoon Funk Machine. .Jeremy, I have a Funk Machine as well, and it is one of my favorite pedals, ever. Somewhat one dimensional, though, but what a dimension! It does not have an external power supply, at least not mine. I have to agree about that footprint issue, it takes up a lot of real estate. The EBS is definitely a solid choice, and it is certainly more available than the Seamoon. Peace, wraub I'm a lot more like I am now than I was when I got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groovyjazzyfunky Posted June 14, 2003 Share Posted June 14, 2003 I have a Q-Tron, and it unfortunately doesn't work well with my active Stingray 5. It doesn't seem to like active electronics. It sounds pretty wicked on my Fender Rhodes, though. And sax, when I can get it to not feedback. Anyone use a MoogerFooger Low Pass Filter? I unfortunately haven't had the opportunity (I live in a small town and haven't even seen one in real life), but I've read enough positive reviews to know that it's something I definitely want to check out. Also, don't discount the Boss AW-3 Dynamic Wah. It's got a nifty "Humanizer" effect, specific Bass input, expression pedal hookup, small footprint, and it's a lot more affordable than some of the other pedals mentioned already. My friend's got one that I've messed around with quite a bit, and I think I like it just as much or more than my Q-Tron. It's got a completely different feel to it, but it's still a groovy little pedal. Despite their "mass-market" popularity, Boss pedals continue to impress me. All your bass are belong to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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