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I was listening to some disco-songs of CHIC and Id say that CHIC is the epitome of grooviness. I also like the song Your Love (bass played with a pick and you must listen to drumn bass combination) and it is amazing that non-of CHICs compilation CDs has it. There is I want your Love in every compilation though. Anyway, man, bass lines are so fantastic. BTW, what is the difference between disco & funk? :rolleyes:
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Depends on the Disco.

 

Chic is more disco, but the Brothers Johnson were more funk.

 

I think it has to do a lot with how the music was used. You'd never hear P-Funk at a disco (well, maybe you did, I was 2 years old in the 70s), but you'd hear the Bee Gees non-stop.

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Disco is more of a four on the floor type groove and Funk has more of a 'swang' and not much four on the floor grooves! Although "Slide' by "Slave" had a four on the floor funk groove. The bass in disco doesn't have too much embelishing but there are some examples of some pretty freaky basslines in disco. No limits to basslines in funk! Chic had a pretty damn good bassist named Bernard Edwards who played with and without a pick. If you dig them R&B bass grooves, check out some old Whispers and Shalamar records (Leon Sylvers on bass) and check out all the old Slave stuff(Mark Adams on bass)! Killer bass.......
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To me,Funk is any music that causes relentless involuntary booty shake, in a straight eighth kinda groove. Disco is homogenized dance music with formulas for bass and drum parts.Like any style, the very best can rise up and grab you by the claves.
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Well, this is why I hate labels. You can dance disco style dances to Chic's music, but it's not as mechanical and lifeless as the disco hits by artists like Donna Summer - string sections, monotonous rhythm tracks that you can dance to but not really listen to, etc.

 

Chic weren't exactly "funk," either, but they were FUNKY. Thanks to Bernard and guitarist Nile Rodgers, Chic had a more organic, more "live" sound than most disco records. Call it what you want, Bernard was one of the great groovers of all time, and like to many, he passed on way BEFORE his time. :(

The Black Knight always triumphs!

 

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After posting this thread, I went on reading about Bernard Edwards. Frantically trying to listen to Chic-ism sound samples but I cant find any. It has a song I like, which is Your Love.

 

What a player Bernard has been. Unfortunately only one of his 6 children has picked music and thats also not the bass. Very unfortunate to hear that he died at the age of 43 after the gig in Tokyo in 1997 in his hotel room.(due to high fever / pneumonia.) Saddest thing is that night before the gig he has announced that hes got fever and not feeling well. I am trying to get Chics compiled version here in Singapore unfortunately non of the famous stores have them in stocks. Its amazing how Bernard came up with those amazing funky bass lines for every song he played. It seems that his bass lines have been copied even by James Brown, Queen etc. etc. and the reason for Duran Duran bassist to take up bass has been Bernard.

 

Man, I am sad that hes gone and may he attain Nibbana! :cry:

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The way I've come to look at it is that although disco and funk are both groovy, disco tends to skate along the top of the groove whilst funk really digs into it. To put it another way, the fundamental pulse of disco is fairly stright with a bouncy slightly swung funky feel on top, whilst the fundamental pulse of funk is greasy and dirty.

 

My old drummer is a real stright-ahead rock drummer and although he could play disco well with the right feel, he just couldn't get the funk feel, even when playing p-funk grooves.

 

So maybe the big difference is that with disco the drums are straight and unfunky but the bass funky, but with funk the whole rhythm section has to be greasin' it up...

 

Alex

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