danwinston Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Hi there, My name is Dan Winston and I am a Product Design student at UWIC in Cardiff, UK. I'm currently working on my major project and I am looking at designing a multimedia product which helps song writers and guitarists to get their ideas written down. The principle would be a device which would take music played from a guitar and write it into tabs, sheet music, chords ect and also offer complimenting bass lines and drums. The device will offer other facilities such as instrument recognition where it can take a piece of music and pull out a specific instrument and convert it to a written format. I was hoping for your comments and ideas. Is there anything you think i could add to my concept? Do you thin this is a viable idea? Would you use it? Does anything really wind you up when writing your own music? Any help whatsoever is very useful Thanks guys ;D Dan Winston p.s. you can contact me via email at danwinston@ntlworld.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shniggens Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 I think it would be useful. But what would the difference be between your idea and pre-existing notation software? Amateur Hack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwinston Posted February 2, 2005 Author Share Posted February 2, 2005 Well this is the point. Im still in the research stages. What products already exist? Granted I have barely looked yet but whatever help you guys can offer is great. Im still keeping my options open and trying to think of more facilities a product could offer the user. Is there anything which you rekon could be improved or added to? Thanks guys Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Well, most sequencing software can take played midi keyboard parts and turn them into a score. To do that with guitar you'd have to have a way to input your guitar into a computer that tracks perfectly. If they still can't do it right with guitar synths after years and years of R & D, how are you gonna do it? The only thing I know of that can pick out individual parts from a mix and score them is the human brain. I don't think big chunks of your idea are even remotely viable at this point in time. -David http://www.garageband.com/artist/MichaelangelosMuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwinston Posted February 2, 2005 Author Share Posted February 2, 2005 Well David, this matters little to my cause. As I said im still in the research stages of a 6 month project. It is not my aim to make this product. If i can show reasonable evidence that the technology has or is being developed my product will be viable. Who has been conducting the R+D into guitar synths? I am asking for your help and suggestions not critasisms and put downs. Thanks again guys Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_dup3 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Problems with tracking guitar signals are largely because of the players refusal to alter their technique. It's quite possible to get the same performance across and get it to track when one is willing to adapt a bit to the instrument one's playing. It's no different than how one alters technique from acoutic to electric or from one amp setting to another. It does seem to me that all the things described as goals for this device are already available, even the auto-creation of supporting parts---...but that's no reason not to create a new device that has it's own combination or treatment of those effects. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Morehouse Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Quite often research leads one down an unknown road that has value in other areas. (Penusillin for example) Iwould give you a hearty thumbs up on this project. My grandfather used to say that "Hard work is its own reward." and quite often research projects end up that way. The journey is worthwhile no matter the end. Good luck, Dave Morehouse Great googly moogly!! http://www.inthechipsproduction.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Sorry Dan, I didn't mean to be rude. I just find it impossible for anything short of a human to pick parts out of an arrangement. Once mixed, there is very little to clue a machine in to so it could discern various instruments. You could focus on pitch and maybe seperate out bass instruments and kick drum, super highs would contain cymbals and acoustic guitar zing, but the mids contain nearly everything. It's the second part of your proposal that I can't fathom someone figuring out in our lifetime if ever. As far as guitar synths, Roland has probably been making them the longest. Yamaha makes them, that Synth Axe was suppose to be accurate although very expensive. I think that Cakewalk Guitar Studio software will do most of the first part of your proposal. Good Luck! -David http://www.garageband.com/artist/MichaelangelosMuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillWelcome Home Studios Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Band in a Box and Finale come to mind, because I have them. Uses a Roland MIDI pickup through a Roland device (in my case, an old GR-50) and a MIDI input (again in my case, an RME) to track my playing and to print it or display it in tab or conventional notation. Band in a Box is a very comprehensive program. Check it out. Bill "I believe that entertainment can aspire to be art, and can become art, but if you set out to make art you're an idiot." Steve Martin Show business: we're all here because we're not all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_dup3 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Dan PMed me regarding this subject but I notice he hasn't opened my response. I wonder if he's still here...anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwinston Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 Im still here just been off on vacation for the past 2 weeks. THanks for your posts guys they have been very helpful. If you have any other ideas or information that might help me out. Ill be sure to post my design solution and links to my web site where you will be able to view more info on my prposed designs. Thanks again guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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