skipclone 1 Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 Has anyone heard a song recently that does something different from the way it starts out? An obvious example might be ZZ Top`s `I`m Bad, I`m Nationwide`, I`m sure there are others but that may be why so many songs lately seem so boring-they have a catchy hook, a cool melody and then they`re over. Any exceptions? Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokerelli Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 Originally posted by skipclone 1: I`m sure there are others but that may be why so many songs lately seem so boring-they have a catchy hook, a cool melody and then they`re over. Any exceptions?[/QB]I wish every song I wrote had "a catchy hook" and "a cool melody". http://www.myspace.com/jokerelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted March 15, 2004 Author Share Posted March 15, 2004 Originally posted by Jokerelli: Originally posted by skipclone 1: I`m sure there are others but that may be why so many songs lately seem so boring-they have a catchy hook, a cool melody and then they`re over. Any exceptions?I wish every song I wrote had "a catchy hook" and "a cool melody". [/QB]No doubt. But you don`t want it to just repeat until the song`s over, right? and then repeat that formula for every song you ever write? I sure don`t. Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted March 16, 2004 Author Share Posted March 16, 2004 Originally posted by skipclone 1: Has anyone heard a song recently that does something different from the way it starts out? An obvious example might be ZZ Top`s `I`m Bad, I`m Nationwide`, I`m sure there are others but that may be why so many songs lately seem so boring-they have a catchy hook, a cool melody and then they`re over. Any exceptions?just for reference here`s one or two more of what I`m talking about. Yes-Long Distance Runaround/The Fish Lynyrd Skynrd-Free Bird (don`t throw things at me) Genesis-Home by the Sea (this one reprises the theme at the end but the music is different) Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Strat Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Black Sabbath did a lot of that (might have been one of the first to do so in modern music?). I don't think the A/B song type thing of which you speak is dead, merely dormant or underground. BlueStrat a.k.a. "El Guapo" ...Better fuzz through science... http://geocities.com/teleman28056/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblue1 Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 It was a very seventies thing... in fact, a lot of it was done with a razor blade (and splicing tape, okay?) Long form songs were the rule of the day in those halcyon free-form FM days. But there were a lot of abuses and pretty soon 7 minutes songs were as welcome as drum solos... The punk era turned it on its head. A lot of veterans of that scene are horrified when they can't pack a whole song into something under 3-1/2 minutes. (I know I still am. I see that ol sequencer clock climbing to the four minute mark and I start thinking about taking out choruses... bookmark these: news.google.com | m-w dictionary | wikipedia encyclopedia | Columbia Encyclopedia TK Major / one blue nine | myspace.com/onebluenine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 I'm right in the middle of a song now where I'm deciding whether to continue with another verse chorus but I think the song wants to shift into an entire different direction. I can't make up my mind. Me and my two dogs, Remington and Winchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted March 18, 2004 Author Share Posted March 18, 2004 Originally posted by theblue1: It was a very seventies thing... in fact, a lot of it was done with a razor blade (and splicing tape, okay?) Long form songs were the rule of the day in those halcyon free-form FM days. But there were a lot of abuses and pretty soon 7 minutes songs were as welcome as drum solos... The punk era turned it on its head. A lot of veterans of that scene are horrified when they can't pack a whole song into something under 3-1/2 minutes. (I know I still am. I see that ol sequencer clock climbing to the four minute mark and I start thinking about taking out choruses...The Z.Z. Top song isn`t that long. Neither is `Give it to me` (J. Geils-great jam at the end of that one). Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted March 19, 2004 Author Share Posted March 19, 2004 Originally posted by Archer: I'm right in the middle of a song now where I'm deciding whether to continue with another verse chorus but I think the song wants to shift into an entire different direction. I can't make up my mind.go for it mon! I`d love to hear the result... Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblue1 Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 I was just watching Danny Kaye in On the Riviera and realized just how postmodern some of the music created for stage musicals has always been, in the sense that introductions, verses and refrains are so often in entirely different styles, not to mention tempos and keys. bookmark these: news.google.com | m-w dictionary | wikipedia encyclopedia | Columbia Encyclopedia TK Major / one blue nine | myspace.com/onebluenine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I I mjrn Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 Originally posted by theblue1: I was just watching Danny Kaye in On the Riviera and realized just how postmodern some of the music created for stage musicals has always been, in the sense that introductions, verses and refrains are so often in entirely different styles, not to mention tempos and keys.Bluestrat, Blue 1 & Archer; You all forgot to include lengthy, unedited quotes in your posts---get with the program!!! Seriously though, I think this is largely down to two likelihoods: (1) that we are in an era when popular music is, overall, not particularly exploratory & (2) that you might listen to recordings/artists that are caught in the mainstream (& therefore liable to it's restrictions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted March 22, 2004 Author Share Posted March 22, 2004 I`ll go along with #1 The songs mentioned WERE in the mainstream, no esoterica needed. Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Hoffman Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 hey guys thought i'd like to jump in on this one and say one song my band is workin on uses the same exact riff for verse chorus and outro, its a catchy riff all i do is switch things up a bit as far as how i play it for the different parts of the song. its like a quick musical statement there's only 12 notes in the musical language...amazing what a little feeling and inspiration does huh anyways peace "The world will still be turning when you've gone." - Black Sabbath Band site: www.finespunmusic.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted April 2, 2004 Author Share Posted April 2, 2004 Welcome aboard Cliff... Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 If I'm getting this right, you'll hear a lot of that on the first Spirit LP, from '68. Gramaphone Man Straight Arrow Girl In Your Eye Topango Windows Elijah Fresh Garbage Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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