the stranger Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 It seems to me that it's currently trendy to bash Elvis. So...is he still the King. Cast your vote now in the last word Musicplayer Elvis poll. Thank you for your time. Suck or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uh Clem Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 this looks tricky - so is the POLL question "is he still the king", or is it "does he suck" ? Steve Powell - Bull Moon Digital www.bullmoondigital.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franknputer Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Of course Elvis sucked. But, only Sam Phillips knows if he spit or swallowed... [img]http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/sick.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP3 Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 As an actor, [b]YES![/b] Must admit "Clam Bake" was a masterpiece. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantasticsound Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 I'm not really an Elvis fan. I like some of his music. But to call him no talent is, I believe, completely unfair. My opinion is Elvis sang in tune, had an interesting voice and an interesting vocal style, and whether he or the Colonel picked them, many songs he chose to sing and record were exceptional. (I'm sure many sucked, as well.) Was he a product of black music sung by a charismatic white man? Sure. So what? That makes him no better or worse than black singers of the same time who ALSO learned their craft from listening to black musicians. It also makes him no better or worse than SRV, who greatly increased the popularity of the Blues. It only means the record companies pandered to white audiences and discriminated against blacks. Does that make Elvis untalented, or just lucky to have been a white entertainer in 1950's America? No talent is a term best left to Milli Vanilli and a few other "faces" who were sold as singers, but couldn't sing. It's easiest to find me on Facebook. Neil Bergman Soundclick fntstcsnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffk Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 it's simplistic to say that he copied black music...Blue Moon of Kentucky pre-Elvis wasn't 'black'. The thing that's impossible to measure is what would have happened to Jerry Lee, Buddy, Carl Perkins etc if Elvis hadn't created the market for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlBob Okum Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Y'all jes don't know talent when ya hear it. Innyboddy that says Elvis sucks kin go ta hail as far as Ah'm concerned. Hail, even th' aliens know that. When Ah was up yonder in that spaceship, the whole thang was WALLPAPERED with velvet Elvises. Him and Dale Earnhardt, God rest their souls. "If it ain't country, it ain't music." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Z. Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Even if you're not an Elvis vocal fan, you have to recognize Elvis' brilliance as a performer with loads of charisma. Certainly, one of the best of all time. And, as popmusic said, he influenced many others in rock and blues, some of whom then influenced us! Never an Elvis basher... lz www.lauriez.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawledge Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 fantasticsound, that was a fantastic post. people need to get off of Elvis's back. I'm so sick of people trying to make him pay for the descrimination of all black people in music, the m/f is dead and still you've got rappers talkin shit about him in songs, it's like get a life and the same people are always talkin about their the black Elvis or black Brittany Spears. This black music white music crap has gone on for far too long from day one. Elvis was talented, and I don't care if he wore an afro wig and dated Big Mama Thorton he would still be talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnb Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 He was a modest talent with a big media machine behind him. I like to think of him as the beginning of mediocrity in America (an exaggeration to be sure, he was certainly not the beginning) There have certainly been more talented, but then again, nobody is complaining about/ worshiping them long after they have died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 Thing about it, talent or not, he was exciting and charismatic. Girls swooned at his heels, and when the guys saw that the girls went nuts, the guys wanted to be as much like him as possible. Sure, you could say that he was of medium talent if you wish. But, someone with more "talent" may have been less "exciting". He had the right combination of talent, charisma, and looks to do what he did. He inspired a generation...helped legitimize black music to a white audience as well as roots white music to a middle class white audience (which were listening to Pat Boone and Doris Day). You really can't assess his contribution properly through the eyes of 2002. You need to look through the segregated eyes of the south in the late 50s to fully appreciate what was accomplished. Would someone else have done a better job? Perhaps. But, history isn't ours to rewrite. Thankyouverrymu-uch... "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcohol Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 Elvis was not a modest talent. Elvis had an exceptional talent for singing and showmanship. Elvis haters are just jealous. "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." [Dante Alighieri] (1265-1321) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveMusic Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 I don't get it. (Comments in this thread.) Elvis was mediocre? At what? Singing? Good gawd, ya'll, that mofo could SING. Fantastic! At showmanship and stage presence? Good gawd, ya'll, who ya kiddin'? That mofo had more than anyone ever born. Dance moves? Good gawd, ya'll, that mofo had it goin' on. He was actually born in the Congo and moved to Memphis when he was five. AND HE HIT THE SCENE IN 1954! He was a friggin' visionary. Acting? He sucked. > > > [ Live! ] < < < Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flo Dolo Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Elvis could sing. I can say that even though I was never a fan. I don't like N-Sync, but those boys carry a tune far better than most. He was an excellent showman for a group of people who at that time had NO IDEA what a show was. No, he couldn't "dance" for shit, but how he moved to the music made his show work. And, no disrespect to LIVEMUSIC, but visionary, he was not. We all know why, no need to jerk a soft, well-spent, raw dick. So did he suck at WHAT HE DID? Hell no. Did he LACK in ARTISTRY, well, debatable but definately a quantifiable "NO." But his (lack of) ORIGINALITY, well that was the biggest minus on his resume. And though he couldn't act, I HAD to watch his flicks when I was a kid just for the chicks. Between those movies on Sunday afternoons in Detroit, and "Get Christy Love," my 6-7 year old hormones were raging. Flo' Dolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisPresley Posted March 29, 2003 Share Posted March 29, 2003 i resent that remark about my boobies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barandine Vondenger Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 PELVIS was a great songster and sanger with sensitvelike tendencies. he could play pianner well and sang with conviction and emotion. the problem was this. the PELVIC THRUSTING and lip-curlifacation and the ENORMOUS buzz generated from said antics LED to "THE ELVINATOR" being VIEWED primarily as a SHEEP with GOLDEN FLEECE. MR. thank,yuh' thankyuh'very much was then sheared till he began to bleed . he was not allowed to heal and grow before he was then sheared closer still. "the Kings'" wounds were beginning to take their toll as evidenced by his subsequent behavior from the obvious serfdom to "the Colonel". THEY began to shave bone and he went bonkers from the pain and got M.J. syndrome. THEY allowed him to slide slowly down the toilet. literally... :mad: :mad: Frank Ranklin and the Ranktones WARP SPEED ONLY STREAM FRANKIE RANKLIN (Stanky Franks) <<< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc taz Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 I, for one, respect what Elvis Presley did for black music. He helped give many of his influences the recognition they deserve. I really don't understand the animosty people have towards him. He really was a talented fellow, despite his bad habits. Also a decent actor, not the greatest, but still interesting enough to watch. I'm not the biggest fan, but there's a lot to be learned from his music, and the emotion behind it. sevenstring.org profile my flickr page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 I'm not a huge Elvis fan but compared to Brittney, Christine and Justin Timberlake, he's an honary Beatle. "That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." - Banky Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawor Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 I think there is a tendency to bash the stars... I 've been known to do it my self once or twice. ;) Do I own any Elvis records? No.. not one! But there is no doubt the guy had talent before he ever walked onto a stage. He just had the right combination of talent, good looks, charisma etc. A marketers pot of gold! But inspite of the sizzle factor he did have what it took and that's why he endured. Unfortunately things eventually caught up with him... probably no thanks to some of those who surrounded him. I've seen several Elvis documentaries and although one can only surmise he 'appeared' to be a genuinely 'nice' guy considering all the attention and hype that surrounded him. It's been said that was in the main due to his unbringing in which his parents taught him to always respects others. Whether or not he was arrogant or difficult behind the scenes... who knows. But inspite of his fame he often came across as almost modest, even referring to reporters as... "Sir"! There's no doubt that everyone wanted a piece of Elvis and that's what probably killed him in the end. "WARNING!" - this artificial fruit juice may contain traces of REAL FRUIT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meriphew_dup1 Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 Personally I never cared much for his music, but without a doubt he was a very talented singer/entertainer. www.meriphew.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenElevenShadows Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 I liked the earlier stuff in the '50s that he did, and I also liked Scotty Moore's playing - an overlooked player. Not a huge Elvis fan, but he was charismatic, a good singer, great performer (certainly in his prime)...to call him talentless is silly. Now, some of those films are pretty bad...okay, most of them. Awright, I can't think of a single one that's good... Ken Lee Photography - photos and books Eleven Shadows ambient music The Mercury Seven-cool spacey music Linktree to various sites Instagram Nightaxians Video Podcast Eleven Shadows website Ken Lee Photography Pinterest Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDL Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 I respect him for what he did. But, I don't like it. JDL on Purevolume Bird\'s Eye View on Purevolume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixterRader Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 Elvis (Costello) ROCKS!!! Be a professional musician. Or just sound like one! Produce music with THOUSANDS of loops and effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jode Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 Elvis Presley is the King Of Rock And Roll, then, now, and forever. That's my opinion. As for the rest of it, here's an original source. "I don't think it was an overstatement at all when they tagged him 'The King'. - B.B. King "I had to have something, and it wasn't there. I couldn't go down the street and buy it, so I built it." Les Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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