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have i ever told you how much i hate POP UPS: i have HAD IT!!!!


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recently many sites have gone to POP UPS. i hate POP UPS. i am very glad this site has no pop ups (yet). it seems like the worst way to make money is to piss the users off. pop ups piss me off, and i usually will close my browser just to get the hell out of there. [url=http://www.carcraft.com]www.carcraft.com[/url] now uses pop ups, and is constantly putting them in FRONT every few seconds. i cant stand it. even excite.com has pop ups in their EMAIL system. GRRRR! my favorite site [url=http://www.dodgesweptline.org]www.dodgesweptline.org[/url] has almost NO TRAFFIC these days, because it is a forum like this one but everytime you look at a post or use the back button to go back to the list a few POP UPS happen. no one has posted hardly at all there recently. way to get your ads seen! piss everyone off and they dont come back!!!! more and more and more sites are doing this. ive tried shutting off java in IE5 but the pop ups still happen. is there a way i am missing or is it a new way of doing pop ups? i and many like me will cease to use sites that continue to use pop ups. how can we put a STOP to this filthy practice
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[quote]Originally posted by coaster: [b]recently many sites have gone to POP UPS. i hate POP UPS. i am very glad this site has no pop ups (yet). it seems like the worst way to make money is to piss the users off. pop ups piss me off, and i usually will close my browser just to get the hell out of there. [url=http://www.carcraft.com]www.carcraft.com[/url] now uses pop ups, and is constantly putting them in FRONT every few seconds. i cant stand it. even excite.com has pop ups in their EMAIL system. GRRRR! my favorite site [url=http://www.dodgesweptline.org]www.dodgesweptline.org[/url] has almost NO TRAFFIC these days, because it is a forum like this one but everytime you look at a post or use the back button to go back to the list a few POP UPS happen. no one has posted hardly at all there recently. way to get your ads seen! piss everyone off and they dont come back!!!! more and more and more sites are doing this. ive tried shutting off java in IE5 but the pop ups still happen. is there a way i am missing or is it a new way of doing pop ups? i and many like me will cease to use sites that continue to use pop ups. how can we put a STOP to this filthy practice[/b][/quote] Go to download.com and download Popup Killer. It's sooooooo nice.
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Hey coaster, I had a thread here about this very subject some months back. They piss me off big-time too! At that time somebody told me to go to http://www.panicware.com and download a free program called Popup Stopper. It works perfectly and I've had no popup annoyances since then. And hopefully the advertisers will get the message that, as you say, popups do nothing but piss people off. Popup Stopper is only available for Windoze users, don't know if you have a Mac but if so I expect there's something similar at there for Mac users. --Lee
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somehow this program called 'save now' got installed on my machine... i have NO IDEA how it was able to do that. kept getting random ads popping up. had to deinstall it TWICE for it to go away. what a fucking asshole who did that to my machine. this should be ILLEGAL. have i ever told you how much i hate telemarketers as well?

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i downloaded [url=http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/info.html?fcode=80762&b=mac]webwasher[/url] for the macintosh and it works. NO pop ups, but no banner ads either. i suppose thats bad for musicplayer forums. while it is really cool to have no pop ups, i find that i have trouble in my email account because the button-functions are not loaded. i have to disable webwasher to use email. maybe i'll figure out how to use the two.
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[quote]Originally posted by alphajerk: [b] have i ever told you how much i hate telemarketers as well?[/b][/quote] I used to practice the almost Christian discipline of "hate telemarketing, not telemarketers." Modern proletariat, what not. Now I've lost all semblance of tolerance and sympathy. Tele- and direct-marketing are SIN and SLEAZE! So data collection evolves and direct marketing is supposed to be getting more personalized, more timed and targeted (e.g., you make a large deposit in your savings account--the campaign management software that tracks such trnasactions automatically triggers certain targeted "offers" through your favored info channels--Web, phone, mail, even ostensibly the ATM at which you make your next $20 withdrawal.) All real-time. Truth is big brother doesn't give a shit about what you believe, write, or smoke. Just what you spend. Anyway, a couple years ago I had a great subservive idea for comabatting direct marketing. I've explianed it to several high-level programmers and they all think its delicious and eminently do-able. So why am I giving it away here?... You develop a spider-like software application that searches the Internet and identifies all "data touchpoints," points at which personal data is solicited in order to register for whatever. As much as possible, you analyze and catalogue touchpoints by the type of info solicited, by the site owner, by market, etc. Then from the app's interface, you set your program to generate millions of unreliable, ficitonal records. You can set it to arbitrary--just go out there and create a random fictional population that clogs up ther system and damages the integrity of the marketing data. Or--this is the beauty part--you can be very precise with it. The software gives you all kinds of options and filters. You can choose to create very specific demographic illusions with it, e.g., a large Mercedes owning population in the poorest sections of rural South Carolina, a giant segment of blue collar males over 40 in Lousiana with intense interest in beauty products. The goal at the bottom of it is simply to dilute and taint the quality of market data, and thus discourage direct marketing, but you could get pretty surreal, malicious, and personal with it if you wished. If anyone wishes to attempt this, I have plenty of other ideas about the kind of functionality it should have...
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Actually, not all pop-ups are the fault of the website. There is a nasty thing going around called 'scumware'that puts up pop-ups on websites as you go around the net. When you download 'free' software, especially things such as Limewire, Bearshare, etc, they bury a little note in the license agreement that allows them to install this 'scumware' on your computer to "enhance" your browsing experience with pop-ups for your "favorite merchandise". The good news is that you can remove it. Go to [url=http://www.scumware.com,]www.scumware.com,[/url] and look for a link related to cleaning your PC. They will suggest a free program called Ad-Aware that will clean this crap off of your PC and give you your web browser back again. I run Ad-Aware every couple of weeks, because some of the host programs that first installed the scumware try to re-install it. Good luck - this is becoming a sad turn of event on the web. -gregg
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Yeah, telemarketers drive me batsh*t! My answering machine filters most of em, but if I accidentally pick up, I've started cutting them off and trying to sell them a CD of my original music. I think it's getting me off of a few lists. There's an email going around: When you get ads in your phone or utility bill, include them with the payment. Let them throw it away. When you get those pre approved letters in the mail for everything from credit cards to 2nd mortgages and junk like that, most of them come with postage paid return envelopes, right? Well, why not get rid of some of your other junk mail and put it in these cool little envelopes! Send an ad for your local dry cleaner to American Express. Or a pizza coupon to Citibank. (I especially liked this!) If you didn't get anything else that day, then just send them their application back! If you want to remain anonymous, just make sure your name isn't on anything you send them. You can send it back empty if you want to just keep them guessing! Eventually, the banks and credit card companies will begin getting all their junk back in the mail and at their expense. Let's let them know what it's like to get junk mail, and best of all THEY'RE paying for it! Twice! Be a proud American and help keep our postal service busy since they say e-mail is cutting into their business, and that's why they need to increase postage again!
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[quote]Originally posted by Magpel: [b] Then from the app's interface, you set your program to generate millions of unreliable, ficitonal records. You can set it to arbitrary--just go out there and create a random fictional population that clogs up ther system and damages the integrity of the marketing data. Or--this is the beauty part--you can be very precise with it. The software gives you all kinds of options and filters. You can choose to create very specific demographic illusions with it, e.g., a large Mercedes owning population in the poorest sections of rural South Carolina, a giant segment of blue collar males over 40 in Lousiana with intense interest in beauty products. The goal at the bottom of it is simply to dilute and taint the quality of market data, and thus discourage direct marketing, but you could get pretty surreal, malicious, and personal with it if you wished. [/b][/quote] Magpel...that's hilarious! I figure there are no holds barred in the war to stop the invasion of privacy by salespeople. As for the telemarketers...there's a site, I think it's [url=http://www.antitelemarketer.com]www.antitelemarketer.com[/url] or something that has a lot of hints on how to get the jerkwads off your back. I figure if a telemarketer calls me, he (or she) is fair game as well... Telemarketer: "Is this Theodore Hoffman?" Me: (Obnoxious radio DJ voice) Hey, I've been waiting for your call, I have an [i]UNBE-LEEEEEEVABLE[/i] opportunity for you! Telemarketer: Uh, Mr. Hoffman, I am just giving you a courtesy call... Me: (Cutting them off) And you'll be glad you did when I tell you about the [i]WONDERFUL SAVINGS[/i] I've been authorized to pass along to you on everything from vinyl siding to consolidating your credit card debt!!! Can I have your social security number? Telemarketer: Click.
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[quote]Originally posted by Tedster: [b] As for the telemarketers...there's a site, I think it's [url=http://www.antitelemarketer.com]www.antitelemarketer.com[/url] or something that has a lot of hints on how to get the jerkwads off your back. [/b][/quote] Tedster, that site is hilarious....even the first (or was it the second) page!! it's worth checking out! "RRRRRRRRRRRING......TALIBAN..." LMAO!!! :D [ 01-22-2002: Message edited by: sactog ]
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Here's what amazes me. There are actually companies that are PAYING web sites to intentionally piss-off potential customers with pop-up adds. Haven't these folks figured out that effectively poking people in the eye to get their attention may be...duh...NOT such a good marketing strategy????? As far as phone solicitations goes, I found one thing that helped a bit. I was getting so many that I started screening calls. But more importantly, I changed by answering machine greeting to say 'If this is any sort of solicitation and you're not willing to leave a message, DON'T call back'. You'd be surprized how much the calls tapered off after having that for a while...especially the countless hangup messages from soliciters. By the way, I don't recall the details, but there are laws you can use regarding phone solicitations. Apparently you can notify a company (it may have to be by registered mail) saying that you do not wish to receive any such calls. If they do anyway, you can nail them for a fairly significant amount of money...$500 to $1000 per call I believe. It takes a bit of effort, but apparently there are folks out there making several grand a year at this. Tom

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Actually, telemarketers are required by law to maintain a "Do Not Call" list. If you request that they stop calling you, the unscrupulous will ask if you would like to be taken of the list. This sounds great, but what they actaully mean is to be taken off the "Do Not Call" list. Don't fall for the "take me off the list" trick. ALWAYS ask to be put ON the DO NOT CALL list. There is a differnce. They are also required by law to maintain a do not call policy in hard copy, and to boot, they are required to mail that hard copy to you if you ask for it. This is how you can hit them the hardest. You eat up their time asking for the document, then they get to mail you seven pages of legal junk with the postage charges. I once heard that if 10% of telemarketing calls ended with a request for that document, it would bring the industry to its knees. Is it true? I don't know. But it DOES cost them money to mail the document, and that hurts. If you don't to go all that far, or if you don't want to give tnem your address, just eat up their time on the phone. Every minute that you talk to them is another 40 people that they can't call. Most sales end with you being connected with a manager of some sort; this time cost them even more. If you remember nothing else form this post, remember this: NEVER EVER EVER BUY ANYTHING!!!!! I know this should go without saying, but they are turning a profit, so someone is breaking this rule.
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>>>Actually, telemarketers are required by law to maintain a "Do Not Call" list. If you request that they stop calling you, the unscrupulous will ask if you would like to be taken of the list. This sounds great, but what they actaully mean is to be taken off the "Do Not Call" list. Don't fall for the "take me off the list" trick. ALWAYS ask to be put ON the DO NOT CALL list.<<<< Actually would think two months of my phone slammin in their ear would make those twerps at MCI and ATT realise I should be on a DO NOT CALL list but as of yet it ain't sunk in yet ;)

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[quote]Originally posted by Soundcrafter: [b]try going to http://and.doxdesk.com/parasite it might be spyware on your computer[/b][/quote] i clicked on that and it said it found 'BDE Projector' (Brilliant Digital Entertainment) on my PC. it said BDE Projector 'silently' downloads components and causes crashes on some PCs (mine must be one of them because i only crash when i'm online, those bastards!! :mad: ) the cool thing is, it instructed me on how to remove this 'scumware' from my PC. now, what i want to know is, how the hell did they install that without me knowing? it was even in my 'add/remove' programs. (that's how i removed it) here BDE's link (advertising scum): [url=http://www.brilliantdigital.com/]www.brilliantdigital.com[/url] thank's for posting that link Soundcrafter :)
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If you're feeling a little playful, when the telemarketers call, let them get into their rap, and at the fulcrum between "How are you Mr. Blake" and the sales pitch, just say "Oh, you're selling something? God, am I relieved - I thought you were another one of those bill collectors." The click from the other end is delicious. One of the Sharper Image type catalogs has a device that when the telemktr calls gives the universal phone co. disconnected tone. This (so they say) triggers a message in their computer that removes your from their lists and all reciprocal telemktrs lists. Like a virus, it's supposed to eventually take you out of their bomb sites. I am by day a mild mannered telephone tech. I had an order to install lines and jacks for one of the light bulb and cleaning product telemarketer scams. Crawling around under the desks running wire and hooking up jacks, I heard them ply their trade. One guy, whose only disability appeared to be the shiner he must have gotten in a fight kept telling the victims that he and his brother were handicapped and they would be out on the street without this company, United Handicapped Workshops or something like that. Another woman put on her best southern accent and was saying "I'm just a Charlotte girl like you, honey, and I really need this sale or I might get laid off." She then turned around and told someone she was calling from just over in St. Paul. Man, Topeka has grown. The lonely and/or elderly are prime victims, as they really want some human contact. Kinda like 900 numbers, except they call you and you get overpriced junk in the mail.

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ah telemarketers. i love those calls. not. but they're easy to deal with. for donations, subscriptions, etc., i usually say, "i'd love to but i'm going to prison next week." anything that's home improvement (siding, windows, etc), i just say "damn i'd love new windows, but i guess that would require me to buy a home first." credit card folks i usually ask, "can i use it to buy heroin, whores and politicians like i used to do with my am-ex card til they took it away from me?" -d. gauss http://www.betteroffdead.com
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