OT: Help me out, what’s the point of “I hate ________” threads?

[Thethirdapple]

The Haight is love

unless you remember the Pall Mall Bar&Grill, then/there… not so much
 

 

 

PEACE

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[CrossRhodes]

1 hour ago, CyberGene said:

I am into classical music, as you know, and as a hobby within that hobby I also love reading biographies, stories and facts about the great classical composers. You'd be surprised about the hostility and ugly hate that basically all of them met on daily basis, from either audiences, critics or fellow composers. And not in anonymous forums. It was in newspapers, in concerts, in letters, face to face.

 

A musician should learn to cope with hate, either ignoring it, or deflecting into their music or whatever. Let's not pretend hate and unfair criticism were invented in the last 10 years, please.

 

Interesting. I discovered a similar thing within the design world when I started studying graphic design. There’s an entire documentary dedicated to how divisive the typeface Helvetica is with some people absolutely hating it lol. You are correct that humanity has a long history of pettiness and childish ego (along with moments of grace and charity) but I do think it has been amplified to an unhealthy level with the internet. Just because we can type an opinion doesn’t always mean we actually have something of value to offer. 

 

I’ve been researching more about this topic lately and came across a term called “hate watching”. Psychologists have been discussing the surge in this type of behavior since the rise of social media and why it makes some people feel good to watch or listen to things they hate and then comment on them. The official definition is “Hate-watching is the activity of watching a television show or film with the intention of acquiring amusement from the mockery of its content or subject” but I would extend that definition to art and music as well for some.

 

 

[CrossRhodes]

23 hours ago, AROIOS said:

1) Our innate need to intelligence signal.
2) Our innate need to connect, conform, socialize and tribalize, which you already mentioned.

3) Our innate need to vent about things that displease us.

 

You're speaking from a point of logic and rationality with "it just seems like a huge waste of mental energy to decide to go online and tell strangers about the things you hate".

But that overlooks our species' HUGE emotional needs. How much of our emotional needs aren't fundamentally "huge waste of mental energy" ? 😃

 

You're not suggesting that the excessive amount of time I spend watching synth demos and obsessing over gear that I can't afford is a waste of mental energy are you?! 🙃

[AROIOS]

13 minutes ago, CrossRhodes said:

...excessive amount of time I spend watching synth demos and obsessing over gear that I can't afford is a waste of mental energy...
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Count me as a fellow GASer and Mental-Energy-Waster (MEWer 😃?). And let's take a moment to celebrate the fact that we are at least self-reflective enough to notice it when we are GASing and MEWing. 🤝

[AROIOS]

1 hour ago, CrossRhodes said:

...There’s an entire documentary dedicated to how divisive the typeface Helvetica is with some people absolutely hating it lol...

And I hate "the hating on Helvetica/Arial/Roboto/(fill in your favorite sans serif font)"! 😃
 

Aesthetics aside, sans serif fonts like Helvetica do often suffer from problems like poor distinction between capital I and lower-case l. But they're easily fixable by adding serifs and hints to specific characters.
 

What most people don't realize, is how sans fonts are more legible on regular-resolution LCD screens, especially when powered by RGB- sub-pixel rendering techniques like ClearType on Windows.
 

Serif fonts like Times New Roman and grey-scale-subpixel-rendering on non-Retina screens (Apple PCs across the board before 2012, Microsoft newer Office and UWP apps etc) did tons of damage to billions of users' eyesight through the years. This must have been one of the biggest crimes in ergonomics that very few users notice consciously.

[retrokeys]

Hating on artists is pointless. Taste cannot be disputed. For gear, or aspects thereof, a little hate may guide someone away from a bad purchase or provide, at least, a little warning.  I, for example, hate wall warts.  Don't count on gear that uses them. 

[MathOfInsects]

Wall Warts were great when they started, but when they shifted from punk to pop I gave up on them. 

[NewImprov]

31 minutes ago, MathOfInsects said:

Wall Warts were great when they started, but when they shifted from punk to pop I gave up on them. 

Yeah, they seemed to lose their spark as they got older.

[David Emm]

8 hours ago, surfergirl said:

I hate hate.

I've always wanted to visit Haight.

Does that mean I don't hate hate?

I hate the English language.🤷‍♀️

You think you hate it? Imagine the poor native of India, trying to absorb enough English to handle a phone bank job. Our contractions alone are a car wreck for someone who has aways said "The house of (person's name)," whereas we say "X's house." The mechanics of it are surely maddening.

 

Then there are the cultural dissonances. I laughed as I cringed at a comedy where a man is teaching a class English: "Repeat after me: 'Use your turn signal, a**hole!'"  

 

English is an amalgam of bits & pieces lifted from other languages, so we can often do creative linguistic calisthenics that wouldn't fly elsewhere. That leads to some great song lyrics, as well as some unique vulgarity. I see it as a photo finish between who can cuss harder: Americans, Italians or a P.O.'d Latin woman. You'd better come prepared with a Kevlar codpiece. Look out, boy, she'll eat you up.

[stoken6]

12 hours ago, MathOfInsects said:

Wall Warts were great when they started, but when they shifted from punk to pop I gave up on them. 

You're missing out. "Barreljack" is a great album. It reminds me of Lou Reed's "Transformer"...

 

Cheers, Mike.

[Ivan May]

I hate when people post “I hate” threads on MPN. The Music Player Network should be a thread about love, not hate.

[David Emm]

12 minutes ago, Ivan May said:

I hate when people post “I hate” threads on MPN. The Music Player Network should be a thread about love, not hate.

 

Heh, largely agreed! You reminded me of a "M*A*S*H*" episode. A young Ron Howard playing an underaged, overly-patriotic kid who made it to the Korean war battlefield through falsifying his age. Hawkeye learns of it and properly outs him. As MPs take him away for his trip back home, he says "I hate you!" Hawkeye smiles and says "Let's hope its a long and healthy hate." Yeah. 🤔 

[TommyRude]

hey y’all, no hate all love here! 😁👍 I haven’t been hanging here lately, my bad!  KC is the best best bestimus

 

I don’t hate Billie Eilish, that thread was a snap reaction to watching her on SNL the other night.  I really don’t know much-any of her music, but knowing how huge she is I tried listening.  It’s just so super soft, I’m really not understanding how she has 17B followers, views or whatever the measure is.  Seems to me kinda like the king has no clothes?  I could only listen about 10 sec, becoming further dumbfounded.  With 17B I’m certainly in the minority.  BUT BUT - - I’m sure there are tons of keyboards, so that’s good!  If I knew Billie personally or someone in her group or orbit, I’d probably think much differently, I’m very shallow that way 😁 Someone mentioned her audience is really engaged, that’s really the key, she’s obviously made a huge connection across the planet.