jerrythek Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/1/2024 at 4:37 PM, ProfD said: Slightly curious to know why a digital stage piano has 3 organ engines.😁 Because they can? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 9 minutes ago, jerrythek said: Because they can? Sure. Just interesting because we don't see clonewheel organs with 3 piano engines.😎 Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesB3 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 1/31/2024 at 8:03 PM, Fleer said: I love it that Korg almost doubled the factory sound memory in the X when compared to the original. But I’m hoping they’re not using MDF underneath, the same cheap-feeling, liquid sucking particleboard they used for the OG and the SV-2. Then I’m out. Count me as another particle board MDF hater. Good dense material for stationary speaker cabinets. Bad material for any gigging instrument. Too heavy compared to lightweight plywood alternatives. Breaks rather than dents with impacts. Strictly a bean-counter rather than an engineering and marketing choice. 1 1 Quote Yamaha CP73; 145 gig Leslie; Nord Electro 61; Oberheim OB3^2; Wurlitzer 200A; Ampeg Gemini I amp; Speakeasy Leslie preamp; QSC K-10 (dearly departed, '58 B3, Bob Schleicher 50C Leslie now serving the Lord in Bryant AR) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, ProfD said: Just interesting because we don't see clonewheel organs with 3 piano engines.😎 Well, Korg's Vox Continental organ had two piano engines (the SGX acoustic piano and EP1 electric piano engines)... 2 Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 12 minutes ago, AnotherScott said: Well, Korg's Vox Continental organ had two piano engines (the SGX acoustic piano and EP1 electric piano engines)... True. Some Hammond and Crumar organs contain other sounds too. I just found humor in a digital piano with 3 organ engines.😎 Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrythek Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 6 hours ago, ProfD said: Sure. Just interesting because we don't see clonewheel organs with 3 piano engines.😎 I’m not sure those companies already have the assets available to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 21 minutes ago, jerrythek said: I’m not sure those companies already have the assets available to use. True. Besides, modern digital pianos are truly electronic keyboards in every way.😎 Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Piano Man Posted Sunday at 06:54 AM Share Posted Sunday at 06:54 AM Hoping the next Grandstage product does the following 1. Re-uses the original Grandstage 88 case 2. Retains the 3 parts of the X 3. Adds drawbar control for the organ section 4. Shortens, if possible, the boot time 5. Perhaps adds a new dedicated upright piano 6. Ideally adds a sub/aux output for routing organ or bass Voila. 1 1 Quote Kurzweil PC3x Technics SX-P50 Korg X3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayBay Posted Sunday at 04:42 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:42 PM 9 hours ago, The Piano Man said: Hoping the next Grandstage product does the following 1. Re-uses the original Grandstage 88 case 2. Retains the 3 parts of the X 3. Adds drawbar control for the organ section 4. Shortens, if possible, the boot time 5. Perhaps adds a new dedicated upright piano 6. Ideally adds a sub/aux output for routing organ or bass Voila. I would add. 7. Weighs less than 18/19kgs 8. Has SSD or space for additional sounds. 9. Polyphony that doesn't drop below 128. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Piano Man Posted Sunday at 05:31 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:31 PM 47 minutes ago, PlayBay said: I would add. 7. Weighs less than 18/19kgs 8. Has SSD or space for additional sounds. 9. Polyphony that doesn't drop below 128. 7. One would think they could get the weight close to the original Grandstage which was, I think, about 20kg for the 88 and 17kg for the 73 8. A quicker drive would be good to help reduce the boot time. Additional space for expansions would be good and in keeping with one of the aspects that makes Nord popular 9. Certainly do-able Quote Kurzweil PC3x Technics SX-P50 Korg X3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Woodward Posted Monday at 03:31 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:31 PM I think the Grandstage is more of a stage keyboard dressed as a piano. Weirdly I was just playing mine, messing with Jump, Why can't this be Love, Here I go Again, Sledgehammer, Gimme some loving, I want to know what love is etc. few of those even need piano and this board has great acoustic and EP's. Really is versatile and, while it lacks real time controls, can get you through a gig. Not happy that I may have to sell mine to move overseas... Quote Korg Grandstage 73, Mac Mini M1, Logic Pro X (Pigments, Korg Legacy Collection, Wavestate LE, Sylenth), iPad Pro 12.9 M2 (6th gen), Scarlett 2i2, Presonus Eris E3.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Woodward Posted Monday at 03:34 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:34 PM 22 hours ago, The Piano Man said: quicker drive would be good to help reduce the boot time. Additional space for expansions would be good and in keeping with one of the aspects that makes Nord popular Not sure this will happen as it's getting into Nautilus territory. Looks like being a preset machine that you can tweak. Quote Korg Grandstage 73, Mac Mini M1, Logic Pro X (Pigments, Korg Legacy Collection, Wavestate LE, Sylenth), iPad Pro 12.9 M2 (6th gen), Scarlett 2i2, Presonus Eris E3.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Piano Man Posted Monday at 03:50 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:50 PM 14 minutes ago, Paul Woodward said: Not sure this will happen as it's getting into Nautilus territory. Looks like being a preset machine that you can tweak. Yeh, that’s a fair point. I just think they are so close to a Nord killer and Yamaha have a lot going well on the YC, there is an opportunity to make the Grandstage really competitive. I don’t get the market for the giant Grandstage X. I mean, really, who wants one and why? Quote Kurzweil PC3x Technics SX-P50 Korg X3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Woodward Posted Monday at 04:48 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:48 PM 56 minutes ago, The Piano Man said: Yeh, that’s a fair point. I just think they are so close to a Nord killer and Yamaha have a lot going well on the YC, there is an opportunity to make the Grandstage really competitive. I don’t get the market for the giant Grandstage X. I mean, really, who wants one and why? I have no idea, and I struggle to see the real benefits of the X over the prematurely discontinued original. In some ways feels a step back. I do agree about the Nord/YC market but maybe Korg don't see a gap there and will continue with synths and workstations which they do well. I am amused that they have kept the same font/name in the new board and the Keystage as if they are all still current models. Quote Korg Grandstage 73, Mac Mini M1, Logic Pro X (Pigments, Korg Legacy Collection, Wavestate LE, Sylenth), iPad Pro 12.9 M2 (6th gen), Scarlett 2i2, Presonus Eris E3.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted Monday at 07:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:22 PM 3 hours ago, Paul Woodward said: I think the Grandstage is more of a stage keyboard dressed as a piano. Digital stage piano and keyboard are interchangeable. Today's digital piano/keyboard offerings have a soundset that is basically a stripped down ROMpler or KB workstation. Some have tone-shaping parameters too. Nowadays, instead of a bloated KB workstation, a digital stage piano/keyboard is really all most KB players especially preset junkies really need. The onboard sounds and variety of them have gotten very good.😎 1 Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Woodward Posted Monday at 08:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:14 PM Indeed, the Grandstage is a few years old now, but still has a great sound set. With 550 sounds, there is something close to what you need to get through a gig. I added a second master keyboard to access the second sound giving me a full weighted piano board and lightweight synth keybed to play organ, synth, brass etc. 3 Quote Korg Grandstage 73, Mac Mini M1, Logic Pro X (Pigments, Korg Legacy Collection, Wavestate LE, Sylenth), iPad Pro 12.9 M2 (6th gen), Scarlett 2i2, Presonus Eris E3.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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