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KenElevenShadows

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Another great image!

 

I'm a slacker, I'll toodle along with Pshop Elements 2022 for a couple more years. 

Who knows where we'll be by then? My camera gear is probably "obsolete" by today's standards too, so it goes... 😇

It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is.
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If it's a good camera - great images, great glass - does it really become obsolete? It's not like it's an app with an "expiration date". 

 

Have fun with Elements. I hear it's a good program. 

 

I would keep the Creative Cloud Photography Plan regardless, but writing for Photofocus, I feel like I almost have to keep it going anyway!! 

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9 hours ago, KenElevenShadows said:

If it's a good camera - great images, great glass - does it really become obsolete? It's not like it's an app with an "expiration date". 

 

Have fun with Elements. I hear it's a good program. 

 

I would keep the Creative Cloud Photography Plan regardless, but writing for Photofocus, I feel like I almost have to keep it going anyway!! 

It's a Canon 6d and I have some nice lenses, including a 17-40 4.0L and a 135 2.0L. So yes, good camera and good lenses. 

Elements is a good program and since I typically go about 3 years and always wait for the sale price on "last year's version" before updating it is much less expensive than the subscription. 

Full Photoshop is probably nice but I'm not sure I need it. I can do some great stuff with Elements. 

It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is.
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3 hours ago, KuruPrionz said:

It's a Canon 6d and I have some nice lenses, including a 17-40 4.0L and a 135 2.0L. So yes, good camera and good lenses. 

Elements is a good program and since I typically go about 3 years and always wait for the sale price on "last year's version" before updating it is much less expensive than the subscription. 

Full Photoshop is probably nice but I'm not sure I need it. I can do some great stuff with Elements. 

 

If you're not finding yourself thinking, "Wow, I really wish I could do ______" then you're fine. Subscription models suck, and this is the only subscription software that I do. 

 

I don't know Canon cameras that well, but I know they make great glass.

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13 minutes ago, KenElevenShadows said:

 

If you're not finding yourself thinking, "Wow, I really wish I could do ______" then you're fine. Subscription models suck, and this is the only subscription software that I do. 

 

I don't know Canon cameras that well, but I know they make great glass.

The 6d is a 20 mp full frame camera. I used to have a 5d and at ISO 3200 the images were pretty grainy. The 6d at 6400 looks MUCH better than that, they really reduced the noise factor. It's a good camera, I don't think anybody in the DSLR market makes a bad camera. I'd be happy with Pentax, Nikon, etc. 

I've pondered mirrorless but can't justify the investment at this point. 

 

I started Photoshop with version 1.07 in 1992. Elements 2021 is ridiculously better than that. Maybe come 2024 or 25 I'll update, maybe not. 

I sort of miss Painter but I didn't use it enough to justify owning it after updating my Mac left it in the dust. So it goes. 

It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is.
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10 hours ago, KuruPrionz said:

The 6d is a 20 mp full frame camera. I used to have a 5d and at ISO 3200 the images were pretty grainy. The 6d at 6400 looks MUCH better than that, they really reduced the noise factor. It's a good camera, I don't think anybody in the DSLR market makes a bad camera. I'd be happy with Pentax, Nikon, etc. 

I've pondered mirrorless but can't justify the investment at this point. 

 

I started Photoshop with version 1.07 in 1992. Elements 2021 is ridiculously better than that. Maybe come 2024 or 25 I'll update, maybe not. 

I sort of miss Painter but I didn't use it enough to justify owning it after updating my Mac left it in the dust. So it goes. 

You started with Photoshop early!! I think I began messing around with it in the late '90s.

 

Most reasonably modern DSLRs are very good. And even if they're a little noisy, you can do numerous things, at least with night photography, to get around it, such as "stack" photos for Milky Way photography and that kind of thing. Or tracking, of course.

 

But for most people who are photographing during the day, I'm not even sure if it really matters that much as long as you have great glass in front of it (again, assuming a reasonably modern DSLR).

 

And pretty much all mirrorless full frames would be considered "reasonably modern", I think!! :D 

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2 minutes ago, KenElevenShadows said:

You started with Photoshop early!! I think I began messing around with it in the late '90s.

I was a late starter for college and the community college in Fresno had a fantastic photography department so I majored in that. 

The head of the department saw Photoshop coming and got funds to populate a room with 14 Macs (doorstop Macs with small screens and 12 mb of RAM!!!) and each one had Photoshop 1.7 installed. We also had a film scanner for 35mm, the larger ones were crazy expensive and digital cameras were basically Apple widgets that took pathetic images, we had a couple of those too.

I took the first Photoshop class in the Central Valley there and then switched my Lab Assistant duties over to the Photoshop lab. I'd go in there some days and nobody would be in there so I'd start projects on all 14 computers because they were glacially slow and moving from one to the next while they were processing was the only way to get things done. I did a deep dive on "things normal people should not try" and got a few of my pieces in a couple of shows at a local gallery. Nobody bought them, so it goes. 

I wasn't making them to sell them, I was learning to push the envelope of what early versions of Photoshop could do. 

Our instructor upgraded at the odd number versions so when Photoshop 3 came out we had layers!!!! That was a HUGE development, it made Photoshop into a powerful tool for experimentation. I look at Elements 2021 and think about how primitive the beginnings were and yet how exciting it was to be able to manipulate images in ways that changed the world forever. 

It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is.
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See, I don't remember any of that. The first Photoshop I knew by name was Photoshop CS, which is the early 2000s. I know I used an earlier iteration although it wasn't mine.

 

Elements 2021 would have blown people's minds back in the early 1990s.

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