musicbysterling Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I'm in a James Taylor tribute band and need some suggestions on creating a solo over some changes at the end of the tune. The song is Mexico and the outro chords are Ebmin-C#-B and F#. I'm playing a B3 part with my left hand and a marimba part with my right. The drummer has suggested that I solo on this pattern, but wanted me to use another sound besides the marimba. Until now, I've been simply noodling on the black keys, but it's extremely limiting and to be honest, a bit boring. I've included the .mp3. Outro starts at 2:19. thank you for any help! Mexico_JT-Live-93.mp3 2 Quote �Ah, music," he said, wiping his eyes. "A magic beyond all we do here!� J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4jazz Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 A nice step up from “noodling on the black keys” would be noodling on the pentatonics associated with each chord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Nathan Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Sounds like the EG has it covered already. Does your drummer want him to give it to you instead? Good band BTW. Quote Don't rush me. I'm playing as slowly as I can! http://www.stevenathanmusic.com/stevenathanmusic.com/HOME.html https://apple.co/2EGpYXK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawback Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I’d do the whole outro solo on organ. The live version rocks. 1 Quote ____________________________________ Rod Here for the gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenheeter Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I'd like to hear the whole show - great band!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawai James Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, kenheeter said: I'd like to hear the whole show - great band!! I think this is the JT Live album the track is taken from:https://www.amazon.com/James-Taylor-Live/dp/B0000027H5 Quote Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own. Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docbop Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Modern times with the great Larry Goldings whose been doing the JT gig in recent years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Gauss Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Eb minor pentatonic is your friend (or at least the friend of whoever is playing guitar on that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicbysterling Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 19 hours ago, D. Gauss said: Eb minor pentatonic is your friend (or at least the friend of whoever is playing guitar on that). I think that's what I've been doing already.All the black keys... Quote �Ah, music," he said, wiping his eyes. "A magic beyond all we do here!� J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzpiano88 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 James has the capo but the piano and B3 don’t have the transpose button. That’s when you practice so hard it doesn’t matter they key. i think Bill Payne had a comment along these lines in his interview with David and Joe. 1 Quote J a z z P i a n o 8 8 -- Yamaha C7D Montage M8x | CP300 | CP4 | SK1-73 | OB6 | Seven K8.2 | 3300 | CPSv.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docbop Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, JazzPiano88 said: James has the capo but the piano and B3 don’t have the transpose button. That’s when you practice so hard it doesn’t matter they key. i think Bill Payne had a comment along these lines in his interview with David and Joe. JT has a capo for same reason a lot of acoustic types do, they are play lots of patterns with open strings. Capo lets them change keys and still play open string patterns. From a Jazz guitarist POV Jim Hall liked playing in flat keys because he could use open strings and they were all altered sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthaholic Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 I do 'Mexico', but I don't play a solo at the end of it. But if I did, I would take inspiration from Jackson Browne's 'You Love the Thunder', which I also do. David Lindley plays a slide solo that always sounded like a synth solo to me, so that's what I play on it. I'd use a classic saw lead, or a classic Steve Winwood Prophet 5 sound. I wouldn't care that it's a beachy, marimba/organ/steel drum type of song. Quote The fact there's a Highway To Hell and only a Stairway To Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic numbers People only say "It's a free country" when they're doing something shitty-Demetri Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reezekeys Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 It's a stylistic thing. You're playing in a certain idiom and you want to be true to that. "Noodling on black keys" is not making it, as you've found out. BTW the Late Show version has a different chord at the end - a Bb7 instead of Gb (F#) maj. Not much differences in note choices, and to me it wouldn't make a diff which version someone preferred. A blues scale should work pretty well here, so including an A natural as a passing tone in your riffing should sound OK, but again it's gonna be the melodic ideas that get you over - not simply looking to land on a black note. I know I'm gonna get crap for this but if you're playing a midi controller and not the real deal, you have the tools to put this in a more comfortable key for you to play. In my opinion there is no shame in using the tools available to help make the music sound better. This doesn't mean you should stop working on playing anything in any key - it's just for the sake of a good-sounding performance in front of your bandmates and the public! There's even some precedent for this concept: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, Reezekeys said: A blues scale should work pretty well here, so including an A natural as a passing tone in your riffing should sound OK, but again it's gonna be the melodic ideas that get you over - not simply looking to land on a black note. Adding that A natural will help a lot. I think of this one as 6-5-4-1 in F#. So using the D#m blues scales with that progression is a solid starting point (can also be thought of as minor Pentatonic in F#: F# G# A A# C# D#. I find thinking in Eb minor blues works best for me though; easier to visualize. Also the varied use of melodic ideas Reezekeys mentioned will do a lot for your soloing. Switching to a B3 sound was suggested as well, which is likely how I'd play this. Piano can work okay too. That particular scale doesn't fall as smoothly under my hands either, but that causes me to come up with different approaches to soloing. 1 Quote 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicbysterling Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 A belated thanx for all your suggestions! Quote �Ah, music," he said, wiping his eyes. "A magic beyond all we do here!� J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Problem is with a song like this is getting comfortable with chords moving in a pattern, not necessarily notes. You might have to be comfortable with the fact you might not ever be comfortable with it. There isn't a lot of room to move from listening to it. The salsa idea is cool if people understand how to play it. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old No7 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 You're taking musical advice from a DRUMMER ? ? ? 😲 Sometimes "Less is more" and maybe your mix of the song doesn't need it............. OR -- let the drummer go nut'zo on the bongos! Old No7 Quote Yamaha MODX6 * Hammond SK Pro 73 * Roland Fantom-08 * Crumar Mojo Pedals * Mackie Thump 12As * Tascam DP-24SD * JBL 305 MkIIs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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