Ivan May Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 The Grammy awards will be on Sunday at 8/7c on CBS, and as usual, it's safe to say that Clive Davis pre-Grammy party will be the highlight. However, Beyonce has the most nominations, with 9, and Kendrick Lamar has 8, and Adele 7. They all seemed poised to win, as does the Italian band Maneskin, who are nominated for Best New Artist. Taylor Swift is back, getting a few Grammy country nominations, but surprisingly, Demi Lovato wasn't even nominated for a Grammy--which I think is disgusting, since Holy Fvck was one of my favorite albums of 2022. There will also be an in memoriam tribute to Lisa Marie Presley, which will also be worth watching. Do you watch Grammy awards, or do you usually skip them? I certainly will be watching. Please let me know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfergirl Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Most likely no. The only reason I would consider watching would be if there were a Jeff Beck tribute. If there is it will likely be available on YouTube. Otherwise the Grammys turn into a Beyonce/Taylor Swift show. Nothing against them I'm just not a fan of either. 2 Quote Jenny S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrythek Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I will wait for the clips to be available in YouTube... too long to sit through. Or maybe I'll record it for viewing later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Time is so valuable. I'd rather spend the time it would take to watch the Grammys making my own music. 1 Quote Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Besides, having covid is bad enough. I don't need to watch something that puts me to sleep 1 Quote Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I haven't owned a television for many decades. I don't listen to much music either and almost nothing that is "popular". Nope, won't be watching. 1 Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill5 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 This is like asking me if I'll watch the Oscars. I'd rather watch a test pattern. And I'm not exaggerating. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundown Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Nah ... I've never been into awards shows and if anything meaningful happens, it's all over the internet the next day. When I was much, much younger I would periodically watch the MTV Music Awards for the live performances, but that was almost 30 years ago. Todd Quote Sundown Working on: The Jupiter Bluff; Driven Away Main axes: Kawai MP11 and Kurz PC361 DAW Platform: Cubase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROIOS Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Noop, haven't in over 20 years, don't plan to any time soon either. Why torture myself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I haven't watched TV since the late 1980s, so the answer is "no". I hope it's a good show for the people who want to see it. I'll be interested in the awards, knowing the voting is both political and covert advertising, so I won't get upset if I think the wrong person gets the prize. Insights and incites by Notes ♫ Quote Bob "Notes" Norton Owner, Norton Music http://www.nortonmusic.com Style and Fake disks for Band-in-a-Box The Sophisticats http://www.s-cats.com >^. .^< >^. .^< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Wow, tough crowd! But all awards shows ratings keep going down, so these comments reflect general trends. I appreciate IMMusicRulz's enthusiasm, and I'm sure he'll glean something out of watching. I should clarify that I am going to record the Grammys, so that I can watch the performances everyone talks about the next day, and skip over the ads. Interestingly, the TEC Awards (full disclosure: I'm on the board) that happen at NAMM are ditching the traditional awards show approach completely for the 2023 show in April. What they're developing is something that has me truly excited. I don't think I'm at liberty to give any details, but the TEC people are doing their best to crack the code on a modern way to do an awards-oriented event. 2 Quote Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Notes_Norton said: knowing the voting is both political and covert advertising What makes you say this? I was a member of the Recording Academy (admittedly non-voting but I saw the process) for a couple of years, and I saw nothing that made me think there was anything nefarious, untoward, etc. in the process. Each step was voted on by members and I saw many who were happily going through the records in the categories to make their decision. The only issues I ever saw or heard about were things like the decisions to put an artist or record in a category or not. Quote "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I have not watched for years. First they went through a period of ignoring new and current stars and instead focused on old, established acts who's time had come and gone. Then those awful music pairings they tried. I can tollerate a lot when rewarded by something like the Michael Jackson "Billie Jean" performance, but those rewards have stopped coming. 1 Quote This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Nah. Too much glitter, too little substance. Is there merit to the work of many nominees? Of course there is. Its just that those shows NEVER include any mention of entities who challenge my personal ear much. The few categories which do contain things of interest are glossed over and zoom by too easily. Have you ever seen the more serious players WE all know on there? I watched from jr. high on and never a serious mention of King Crimson, Patrick O'Hearn, The Roches, the fine Celtic harpist Patrick Ball, etc. etc. Most people, especially those who are wild for Grammy nominees, basically live in a 4/4 world. Our kind live in worlds of everything else. The Grammys are basically the Disneyfied show-off reel for artists who found the populist mainline at a certain time, kissed the right heinies (a very useful skill) and were promoted to the level of I Half-Own Spotify. No slam intended, that's just how a lot of The Machine works. So no Grammys for me. I'm too old & cranky and I'll be busy adding 4 more measures to a work in progress. Time better spent. Hm, award ceremonies... "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" had a bit called "Things You Don't Expect To Hear At Awards Shows." Wayne Brady: "I'd like to thank the Dark One..." 😈 Colin Mochrie: "You don't know how many b**** I've had my c*** up just to get this." 😄 Quote "Why can't they just make up something of their own?" ~ The great Richard Matheson, on the movie remakes of his book, "I Am Legend" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 6 hours ago, David Emm said: Its just that those shows NEVER include any mention of entities who challenge my personal ear much. The target market isn't musicians, it's people who listen to music rather than make it. Sometimes, the two overlap. Much of the time it doesn't. 3 Quote Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 17 hours ago, Joe Muscara said: What makes you say this? I was a member of the Recording Academy (admittedly non-voting but I saw the process) for a couple of years, and I saw nothing that made me think there was anything nefarious, untoward, etc. in the process. Each step was voted on by members and I saw many who were happily going through the records in the categories to make their decision. The only issues I ever saw or heard about were things like the decisions to put an artist or record in a category or not. Observation. Who wins, who doesn't and the aftermath. The first time I noticed something strange was in the 1980s. A movie about Mozart came out, "Amadeus" and it flopped at the box office. I saw it on the first run in an empty theater. Later that year it won 8 Oscars, was re-released and did great at the box office. I say to myself, is it possible it was an advertisement? It was a good movie, but certainly not that good. Others were better that didn't get the awards. For a couple of decades after that, watching the Oscars and Grammys I saw more and more unbelievable winners. Analyzing what came before and after for those people and their connections, the pattern became obvious to me. The best in any category isn't always the best, but sometimes merely a promotion. Then I simply lost interest in awards shows. I suppose when an industry awards itself, the awards are easily influenced too much by politics and need. But it's all just my opinion. Insights and incites by Notes ♫ Quote Bob "Notes" Norton Owner, Norton Music http://www.nortonmusic.com Style and Fake disks for Band-in-a-Box The Sophisticats http://www.s-cats.com >^. .^< >^. .^< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Notes_Norton said: For a couple of decades after that, watching the Oscars and Grammys I saw more and more unbelievable winners. (sigh) Sheryl Crow somehow won 9 grammies during this period. Her method, pick a catch phrase, repeat it 100 times, call it a song. 1 Quote This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Song of the Year: Bonnie Raitt, Just Like That, beating Taylor Swift, Lizzo, Harry Styles, Beyonce, Kendrick Lamar, DJ Khaled… 1 Quote "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 I went to a jam session and was not aware the Grammys were on until a break between sets, when I overheard one muso asking another "Who are the winners so far?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfergirl Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, Joe Muscara said: Song of the Year: Bonnie Raitt, Just Like That, beating Taylor Swift, Lizzo, Harry Styles, Beyonce, Kendrick Lamar, DJ Khaled… Going to see Bonnie next month in Honolulu. We're taking my half sister, she will be 13 this month, to her 1st concert. 2 Quote Jenny S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe Muscara said: Song of the Year: Bonnie Raitt, Just Like That, beating Taylor Swift, Lizzo, Harry Styles, Beyonce, Kendrick Lamar, DJ Khaled… This is what I mean. I really, really, like Bonnie Raitt. She is a fine singer and guitarist. I have a few of her songs in my listening collection. But, if this is actually the best song of the year, the rest have got to be terrible. You know what I mean by that. It sounds a little like a pre-electric Bob Dylan song. Extremely predictable, musically uninteresting, just all around "meh". The tearjerker words are well done, but lyrics are only the poetry to accompany the music. Take the words out, and it's boring by the 12th bar. So IMO the award was given to Bonnie for political reasons, not for the merit of the song. And I think Bonnie knows it is not the best song of the year, which is why she was so shocked to win. (I watched it on UTube) I still say, if any industry gives awards to themselves, the awards are not valid. Perhaps the public subconsciously knows this, which is why award programs are losing viewership. Insights and incites by Notes ♫ 2 Quote Bob "Notes" Norton Owner, Norton Music http://www.nortonmusic.com Style and Fake disks for Band-in-a-Box The Sophisticats http://www.s-cats.com >^. .^< >^. .^< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 17 hours ago, Notes_Norton said: Perhaps the public subconsciously knows this, which is why award programs are losing viewership. I read in Variety that the viewership was up 30% over last year. However, that's still less than half of what it was in 2017, and the third-smallest audience ever. Streaming on Paramount+ was big. The following chart from Statista tells the story. The chart is copyrighted, but it's not behind a paywall, and hopefully they would consider it fair use. Interesting that the peak occurred just as the CD had pretty much cratered as a delivery medium (it peaked in 2000). Quote Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Heins Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 I've never watched the Grammys...I prefer music Bill 1 Quote http://www.billheins.com/ Hail Vibrania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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