How to replicate the deep mode on QSC K.2?

[Montunoman 2]

Greetings, 

 

I hope to get a pair of the QSC 10 K.2  this weakened. and I understand that the "deep" mode is not on the K.2 series. It sure sounded like a great feature that I've heard  lots of musicians rave about. Anyways, the K.2 must be better than the old K  'legacy" series, and I suppose there must be a way to reproduce that deep setting with the EQ. I thought maybe some of you could share your EQ setting. Thanks ! 

[Delaware Dave]

Why wouldn't a mixer with the bass turned up or an independent EQ system EQ'd for low end bass not get you a similar result?

[Docbop]

One minute in the QSC website has your answer......

 

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Why is there no DEEP setting on the K.2 series of loudspeakers?

Jul 11, 2017•Knowledge

 

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Why is there no DEEP setting on the K.2 series of loudspeakers?

 

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DEEP™ (Digital Extension and Excursion Processing) is now built into a number of Presets, including Dance, Live, Bass Amp and Studio Monitor. If the user feels there is too much bass present, it can always be dialed-back through the unit’s equalization settings.

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[Montunoman 2]

32 minutes ago, Delaware Dave said:

Why wouldn't a mixer with the bass turned up or an independent EQ system EQ'd for low end bass not get you a similar result?

Yeah, that's what I figured. Just thought it would be nice to have a dedicated setting.... 

 

25 minutes ago, Docbop said:

One minute in the QSC website has your answer......

 

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Why is there no DEEP setting on the K.2 series of loudspeakers?

Jul 11, 2017•Knowledge

 

TITLE

Why is there no DEEP setting on the K.2 series of loudspeakers?

 

DETAILS

DEEP™ (Digital Extension and Excursion Processing) is now built into a number of Presets, including Dance, Live, Bass Amp and Studio Monitor. If the user feels there is too much bass present, it can always be dialed-back through the unit’s equalization settings.

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Thank you DocBop. 

[AnotherScott]

18 minutes ago, Delaware Dave said:

Why wouldn't a mixer with the bass turned up or an independent EQ system EQ'd for low end bass not get you a similar result?

Most mixer bass EQ knobs are x/dB per octave shelving style from some fixed frequency. But something designed for a particular speaker system and application can benefit from not having to be generic... it could have one or more selectable curves optimized for the performance of that speaker, and for specific applications.

 

One example might be that you could have something that boosts bass in the region from 100 Hz down to 60 Hz with some curve, but (unlike a shelving approach) then actually cuts bass below 60 Hz, which would be a way to boost a lot of the perceptible bass without straining the speaker as much as if it were necessarily also boosting the even lower bass. (These numbers are arbitrary just to illustrate the concept, I have no idea what the specifics of QSC's bass manipulations are.)

 

https://mynewmicrophone.com/audio-shelving-eq-what-are-low-shelf-high-shelf-filters/

 

 

 

[Reezekeys]

7 hours ago, Montunoman 2 said:

It sure sounded like a great feature that I've heard  lots of musicians rave about.

 

I've had my K8s for 13 years and have never used DEEP, not once. I see it as aimed at the dance club types, but I don't know what kinds of gigs you do so maybe you'll like it. Not me. I only use my Ks for my keyboards, but occasionally do LH bass gigs and DEEP is not needed there either, imo.

 

You should go through the EQ settings when you get the K.2s. If you're only sending keyboards and/or vocals through them, I'll be very surprised to find out you preferred an eq setting that had DEEP engaged.

[RandyFF]

With my K10, I thought the Deep Bass option was mostly unusable, too much of good thing.  Sounds like they’ve further fine tuned it by having presets that use it judiciously.

 

On another note- personally I would hope there’d be plenty of speakers at or below the price of the K10.2 that would have a BT mixer.  I’ve got the K8.2 as well as the JBL Eon One Compact, and for sheer convenience, I often use the lesser powered JBL because I can adjust the mixer via BT for volume, 4 band EQ per channel, reverb/delay/chorus settings, etc., all mixed from my place at my keyboard.  

 

I really dislike having to adjust the MANY parameters of the K8.2 one at a time and then run back to my listening/playing position to hear if it sounds good, then back to the K8.2, ad nauseum.  Makes it 10xs more efficient and user friendly to have a BT mixer!  I won’t buy another speaker unless it has this very needed feature.  The K8.2 has a plethora of EQ and other choices, but the old school way is very tedious, so I rarely use its many EQ/various features.  YMMV

[Reezekeys]

2 hours ago, RandyFF said:

I really dislike having to adjust the MANY parameters of the K8.2 one at a time and then run back to my listening/playing position to hear if it sounds good, then back to the K8.2, ad nauseum.  Makes it 10xs more efficient and user friendly to have a BT mixer!

 

I think the new Alto TS4xx speakers do this. "2000 watts" (yea, in quotes, it's more like 1000 but who's counting? 🙂 ). At $290 US for the 408, probably worth a listen - that's 1/3 the price of the 8.2s. How they do it?!

 

From their web page: "FREE Alto App for remote configuration and control. Available free for both Android and iOS, the Alto App gives hands-on remote control over Bluetooth levels, Speaker Use Modes, Custom EQ and Sub Size selection.  Further, True Wireless Stereo linking can be configured remotely via the app to save time during setup. Download for Android Download for iOS"

 

I'm starting to sound like I'm on their payroll! Actually I have no idea what those TXs sound like next to QSCs. I have the older K8s, and just got the cheaper no-frills Alto TX308s, which I've used at one gig so far – these are not in the K's league but I was happy with their performance and think they're worth their low cost – assuming they're reliable.

[cphollis]

"DEEP" vs. using normal EQ -- the embedded DSP can (theoretically) push the bass response to the physical limitations of the speaker, avoid nasty resonances, etc.   I always found it a lot cleaner and more effective than just turning up the bass EQ.  FWIW.

[Montunoman 2]

I picked up a pair of QSC K.2 10" . So far, I I actually really like the default setting.