A request for your consideration, a forum section for electronic music creation.

[RABid]

We have forums for the traditional instruments in a band, but nothing about DAWless, DAWs, Eurorack, beatboxes, VST's, stems, computers, etc... and tying it all together. There are several individual forums around the internet but I cannot find a good spot that brings it all together. It is really fragmented right now. We talk about some of these topics on SSS and Keyboard Corner but they really need a centralized home. Either a new section, or declaring SSS, Sound, Studio and Stage, as the place to talk about all music creation including connecting your beatboxes and Eurorack to a recording system to make stems for importing into your computer, processing through a DAW with imaginative effects to create a finalized product. And of course, the best way to publish and get it heard. I'm honestly torn between thinking we need a new area, or using SSS. Craig is an icon that has credibility that can draw those interested in making electronic music. 

 

So what do you think?

[KuruPrionz]

1 hour ago, RABid said:

We have forums for the traditional instruments in a band, but nothing about DAWless, DAWs, Eurorack, beatboxes, VST's, stems, computers, etc... and tying it all together. There are several individual forums around the internet but I cannot find a good spot that brings it all together. It is really fragmented right now. We talk about some of these topics on SSS and Keyboard Corner but they really need a centralized home. Either a new section, or declaring SSS, Sound, Studio and Stage, as the place to talk about all music creation including connecting your beatboxes and Eurorack to a recording system to make stems for importing into your computer, processing through a DAW with imaginative effects to create a finalized product. And of course, the best way to publish and get it heard. I'm honestly torn between thinking we need a new area, or using SSS. Craig is an icon that has credibility that can draw those interested in making electronic music. 

 

So what do you think?

Thanks RABid, I like it!

 

I agree that Craig is an icon but it seems that he could be stretched a bit already. If he wants it, awesome. 

 

We could put it in the Recording Forum as a sub-Forum maybe? 

dB would probably approve and we could use more interaction there. 

I think it's a great idea, where ever it ends up. 

 

I've a fair bit to say about it myself, I certainly have my experiments and I'm not close to done. Sharing ideas and experiments could bring us all to a higher level. 

The concept alone should draw a certain percentage of MPN members and we could build from there. 

[Anderton]

1 hour ago, RABid said:

We talk about some of these topics on SSS and Keyboard Corner but they really need a centralized home. Either a new section, or declaring SSS, Sound, Studio and Stage, as the place to talk about all music creation including connecting your beatboxes and Eurorack to a recording system to make stems for importing into your computer, processing through a DAW with imaginative effects to create a finalized product.

 

I vote for SSS.

 

When I was trying to convince PAiA's John Simonton to transform Polyphony into Electronic Musician, my pitch was that we already had "vertical" magazines like Guitar Player, Keyboard, Bass Player, Recording, etc., all of which had a "star" on the cover. I said what about the guitar player who uses MIDI to trigger synthesizers, and records too...and that the world needed a "horizontal" magazine. And I was adamant about not having stars on the cover, but gear. I felt the readers were the stars.

 

I might add that Electronic Musician experienced meteoric growth while I was there. But I didn't make it successful, the readers did. I just gave them what they wanted. 

 

I still push the envelope and I know others are too. I'm in favor of as much envelope-pushing as possible. I'm not a guitar player, a keyboard player, a recording engineer, or even a badass blues harp player. I'm a musician and the playground has never been better or more inspiring.

 

I say go for it.

 

[Anderton]

11 minutes ago, KuruPrionz said:

I agree that Craig is an icon but it seems that he could be stretched a bit already. If he wants it, awesome. 

 

 I am an icon - double-click on me, and I'll just keep talking until you shut the computer down

 

Stretched...yes. But stretching keeps you limber!

[KuruPrionz]

2 hours ago, Anderton said:

 

 I am an icon - double-click on me, and I'll just keep talking until you shut the computer down

 

Stretched...yes. But stretching keeps you limber!

This would be a great place for it. I'd be reading and posting. 

So many different directions to take that process, the learning curve is infinite. Which is comforting as it will always be challenging. 

[Anderton]

So do y'all think this should be a sub-forum?

[KuruPrionz]

2 hours ago, Anderton said:

So do y'all think this should be a sub-forum?

Yes, you have lots of posts every week. If it is a post it will disappear to the next page pretty quickly. 

At some point everybody may wonder where it went.

 

If it is a sub-forum then you may have topics come and go but the sub-forum will not go away. 

That's my spin. 

[RABid]

I can go either way. This is called Sound, Studio and Stage so that fits. We can start out posting here and if it builds you can decide if you want to split it off. If it is here you might want to expand the description. I am a bit surprised more people have not chimed in, but the people using beatboxes, stems, modular, etc... may not be browsing here very often.

[RABid]

I'm going to try posting a topic a day and see what happens.

[David Emm]

I don't think we need another sub-section, simply because all of that is always fair game on SSS, any day of the year. Last time I looked, I was still literate, so I can click Follow if needed. The rest of the site is always a leisurely crawl otherwise. The best filter is to simply read the subjects. The separate groups have been there at a click ever since the site was so effectively rebuilt. This is the version 3.0 (+/-) that we always wanted.

 

Therefore, I vote a very positive and well-satisfied "No." Remember, "Perfect is the enemy of Good Enough." ~ Homer Simpson

[NewImprov]

I'd personally like a sub-section devoted to modular, semi-modular and general electronic production stuff, with less of a keyboard-centric. Don't get me wrong, I play keys and love them, but I'm also pretty deep into the "other" side of musical electronics. But if the topics are here in this forum, I'll try to keep on top of them. I read the Gearspace Electronic Music Instruments and Production forum a lot, but I like the sense of community here better.

[GovernorSilver]

Electronic music creation interests me but I don't any strong feelings either way about a sub-forum 

[Anderton]

20 hours ago, RABid said:

I am a bit surprised more people have not chimed in, but the people using beatboxes, stems, modular, etc... may not be browsing here very often.

 

They aren't, but I wish they were. Forumsestablished prior to Facebook's explosion have more or less flat growth. Post-Facebook forums have had a hard time getting traction. 

 

That's both good and bad. Good, because in the case of MPN, this is one of the most civilized forum environments on the planet. Occasional visits to other forums remind me of that, so I'm glad we haven't had an influx of less-than-wonderful forum people. But it's bad, because it takes time to build traction.

 

Ultimately, I think the answer is consistency. Just get keep posting..."if you build it, they will come." It will just take people a long time to figure out there's a place to go with what they want. I'm not sure how we can get the word out to people who are not already here.

[Dave Bryce]

My take?  Go for it!  

 

Start posting topics.  Craig likes the idea of doing it in SSS, so I'd say go ahead and start doing it there.

 

If it turns out to be popluar, we can always make a new forum (or sub forum) for this and move the relevant topics there.

 

dB

[The Real MC]

On 10/3/2022 at 11:34 PM, Anderton said:

I might add that Electronic Musician experienced meteoric growth while I was there. But I didn't make it successful, the readers did. I just gave them what they wanted.

 

 

I purged a lot of catalogs and magazines before relocating but that era of EM are one of the few I kept.  Great references.

[Anderton]

4 hours ago, The Real MC said:

 

I purged a lot of catalogs and magazines before relocating but that era of EM are one of the few I kept.  Great references.

 

I can consider that an honor, but again, it's because there were great people involved.