What got into Grant Green?

[cedar]

Just heard this version of "Oleo" for the first time, and I want an explanation.

 

 

 

[16251]

Here's what I thought was going on when I had checked it out.

 

[Morrissey]

Reminds me of my confusion when I first heard John Scofield's version of Cissy Strut modulate down temporarily to Ab

[cedar]

16251,

 

I think you nailed measures 3-4, not as sure about 5-6.  

 

I must say I think I felt more than confusion when I first heard this; it was almost outrage.  How dare he do that to Oleo?  😁

[jamesgordon]

1 hour ago, Morrissey said:

Reminds me of my confusion when I first heard John Scofield's version of Cissy Strut modulate down temporarily to Ab

When it comes to Cissy Strut confusion, Sco's got nuthin' on Oz Noy: 
 

 

[16251]

28 minutes ago, cedar said:

16251,

 

I think you nailed measures 3-4, not as sure about 5-6.  

 

I must say I think I felt more than confusion when I first heard this; it was almost outrage.  How dare he do that to Oleo?  😁

Those two bars are in Bb (I didn't clearly mark key change.) I'm not near piano. Maybe someone can clarify.

[jamesgordon]

30 minutes ago, cedar said:

16251,

 

I think you nailed measures 3-4, not as sure about 5-6.  

 

I must say I think I felt more than confusion when I first heard this; it was almost outrage.  How dare he do that to Oleo?  😁

Oleo really takes as beating here.  Fortunately, that lunatic Remi Bolduc gives us a ring-side seat so we can try to figure it all out for ourselves at home: 
 

 

[TommyRude]

46 minutes ago, jamesgordon said:

When it comes to Cissy Strut confusion, Sco's got nuthin' on Oz Noy: 
 

 

Damn that's great 

[Bobbo Fett]

clevvver

[KuruPrionz]

19 hours ago, cedar said:

Just heard this version of "Oleo" for the first time, and I want an explanation.

 

 

 

He's like, playing guitar or something?

Isn't the point of Jazz to be creative and improvise? He seems to be doing exactly that. 

If things must be "just so and no other way" then that isn't Jazz anymore. 

[Jim Alfredson]

That version by Grant is killer. I think he was inspired by Giant Steps, which was released only a year or so before his sessions with Sonny Clark.

I like this version, too. Why not mess with it? It's just rhythm changes, so doing something different with the tune is fun (ie, jazz).
 

 

[Jim Alfredson]

Regarding your chart, he's just doing a series of II V I. 

Cmaj7    |  Dbm7   Gb7   |   Bmaj7    |  Cm7  F7   |   Bb7     etc....

[cedar]

To be serious, obviously it's great to experiment.  I was just taken back by this particular group doing so on rhythm changes.  Really caught me by surprise.

[cedar]

By the way, another thing that surprised me, frankly, is that I had never heard this version - or even this album before.  I thought I had heard all of Sonny Clark's recorded performances.