b3plyr Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Anyone have this stand? Would like to know your experience with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJkeys Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 This stand has been discussed a lot, a search for 18880 will give you all the threads: https://forums.musicplayer.com/search/?q=18880&quick=1&type=forums_topic&nodes=28 -dj Quote iMac i7 13.5.2 Studio One 5.5.2 Nord Stage 3 Nord Wave 2 Nektar T4 Drawmer DL 241 Focusrite ISA Two Focusrite Clarett 8 Pre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3plyr Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 Thanks much. I have to remember to search before posting! Dave - the pictures really helped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenheeter Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Have it, love it! I've had mine for a long time. I have the second tier arms which I use when I take two keyboards out. Rock solid, weighs nothing, sets up in 5 seconds. I wouldn't use anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Great stand! As long as I check the connectors every few weeks - nuts, screws, etc., it's been rock solid. Super-light and very quick to set up. Perfect for tight stages, like the one below. Somehow seven of us were squeezed onto a stage designed for three or four performers. Quote 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Yup. Modified mine for a wider crossbar to accomodate a wide pedalboard. Stuck wood custom risers in the back tubes for a second tier. Super light weight and transportable. Should it break I would immediately buy another. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PianoMan51 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 This all about schlepping weight. Mine replaced a 17lb Z-stand ten years ago. More than 500 gigs later I’ve modded it for a second tier waterfall board that sits directly on top of main board, spray painted the black back on, attached a mic boom, retightened the bolts every few years. My band mates thought I had bought some cheap, ugly third-world POS, but I would buy another one tomorrow if needed. But I expect this stand to outlast me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b3plyr Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 2 hours ago, PianoMan51 said: This all about schlepping weight. Mine replaced a 17lb Z-stand ten years ago. More than 500 gigs later I’ve modded it for a second tier waterfall board that sits directly on top of main board, spray painted the black back on, attached a mic boom, retightened the bolts every few years. My band mates thought I had bought some cheap, ugly third-world POS, but I would buy another one tomorrow if needed. But I expect this stand to outlast me. Do you have any pictures of your mods? Would be very interesting to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Quinn Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I have one and love it. Lightweight and folds up easy. I never use the crossbar and it still feels stable to me. Quote https://alquinn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3plyr Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 Thanks all of you. I'm sold! Just ordered one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PianoMan51 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 19 hours ago, b3plyr said: Do you have any pictures of your mods? Would be very interesting to see. Sorry, but my gigs have changed and the mods have been un-modded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzjazz Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Hmmm, that stand is a bit ugly with all the concertina-ing stuff in the middle, but it weighs only 3 kg. I might have to put up with that when I finally replace my X stand. Quote www.dazzjazz.com PhD in Jazz Organ Improvisation. BMus (Hons) Jazz Piano. my YouTube is Jazz Organ Bites 1961 A100.Leslie 45 & 122. MAG P-2 Organ. Kawai K300J. Yamaha CP4. Moog Matriarch. KIWI-8P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branwell Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 11 hours ago, dazzjazz said: Hmmm, that stand is a bit ugly with all the concertina-ing stuff in the middle, but it weighs only 3 kg. I might have to put up with that when I finally replace my X stand. I have never seen one in the wild here in Australia and don’t know why the local K&M distributor hasn’t tried to do anything with this model here. I expect there would be plenty of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niacin Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 I have one, I think I purchased it from Manny's/StoreDJ. Quote Gig keys: Hammond SKpro, Korg Vox Continental, Crumar Mojo 61, Crumar Mojo Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajstan Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 On 9/5/2022 at 5:58 PM, b3plyr said: Do you have any pictures of your mods? Would be very interesting to see. 17 hours ago, dazzjazz said: Hmmm, that stand is a bit ugly with all the concertina-ing stuff in the middle, but it weighs only 3 kg. I might have to put up with that when I finally replace my X stand. I posted a couple pics in this thread where I cut 3" off the second tier arms to reduce the overhang and drilled an extra set of holes so I could set the second tier closer to the lower tier. I am also not a fan of the wide look of the 18880 as it is typically shown online, but I set mine up with the legs only 18" apart so it is more like a pedestal and virtually disappears on stage. https://forums.musicplayer.com/topic/182870-stay-keyboard-stands/?do=findComment&comment=2911290 Quote Nord Stage 3 HA88, Nord Stage 3 Compact, Casio CT-S1, Radial Key Largo, Westone AM Pro 30, Rolls PM55P, K&M 18880 + 18881, Bose S1 Pro, JBL 305p MKII, Zoom Q2n-4K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Here's my mods. - Custom wood 2nd tier pieces with swivel arms and trolleys to allow top board to slide over bottom board controls. - Elongated center brace which splits in the middle and allows a wider stance. 3 Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJkeys Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Here are some pictures of mine. I did what ajstan did and drilled and extra hole to allow the second tier to go lower, and also cut off 3 inches from the top tier so that it did not protrude over the lower board. Added weatherstripping and velcro to the top tier, and jury-rigged a mic holder for a boom as well. Since I always play standing, I only had to adjust it once. I also do not use the crossbar and set mine up narrowly as well. Easily the best keyboard stand I have ever owned, total cost at Amazon was <$300 and worth every penny. Quote iMac i7 13.5.2 Studio One 5.5.2 Nord Stage 3 Nord Wave 2 Nektar T4 Drawmer DL 241 Focusrite ISA Two Focusrite Clarett 8 Pre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 I've owned two of these and advised a choir I'm associated with to buy a third. Unfortunately, they've all suffered the same fate – that scissor action soon gets slightly out of kilter and bends and becomes increasingly difficult to fold in and out. I've not bought a third – I'd go with an 18950. Yes it's a fair bit heavier but bombproof compared with the 18880. Quote Yamaha: P515, CP88, Genos 1, HX1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, Aidan said: Unfortunately, they've all suffered the same fate – that scissor action soon gets slightly out of kilter and bends and becomes increasingly difficult to fold in and out. I'm surprised. I've used it for hundreds of gigs over 10+ years and haven't experienced that, and I do not treat it gingerly. 4 Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 I found that when collapsing my stand, it worked more smoothly if I backed the knobs off a couple more turns. 2 Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, mate stubb said: I found that when collapsing my stand, it worked more smoothly if I backed the knobs off a couple more turns. Hmm, it's very possible that I did that, without being very conscious of it. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 And then be sure to tighten them back up for transport so they don't disappear... 1 Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 yup... loosening and tightening those 2 knobs is key... but that's practically the entire effort required to assemble/disassemble the stand. I guess one more to loosen/tighten if you use the cross-brace. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roygBiv Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Love these mods! I did a variation on matestubs design, very simple and lets you essentially stack your two keys on top of each other. Quick question: has anyone found a good carrying bag that the K&M 18880 will fit into? Due to its "square" size, the only thing I can think of would be maybe an artist portfolio, but would love to know if there is anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyNQ Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 4 hours ago, AnotherScott said: Hmm, it's very possible that I did that, without being very conscious of it. Yes I’ve always done this with mine too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzjazz Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Perhaps a silly question, but does this stand go low enough for regular seated playing, ie piano height? It looks like it might be a bit higher than that. also, does the cross-bar get in the way of inputs/outputs on your keyboard? Quote www.dazzjazz.com PhD in Jazz Organ Improvisation. BMus (Hons) Jazz Piano. my YouTube is Jazz Organ Bites 1961 A100.Leslie 45 & 122. MAG P-2 Organ. Kawai K300J. Yamaha CP4. Moog Matriarch. KIWI-8P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewImprov Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 I've had one for about 8 years, and I love it! I'm currently using it with the 2nd tier stacker, I have the 3rd tier set as well but am not currently using them. As other owners have [posted in this thread, you need to loosen the bolts for the scissor joints when tearing down, and then re-tighten them while transporting the stand. I always use the crossbar, I find it is much more stable with it. My only complaint, and it's minor, is that with the crossbar in place, the arms are fixed at about 28.5" width, and some keyboards, like my Sequential Take 5, are narrower. I just use a 34" piece of plywood as a shelf, and it's fine, it even gives me a place to put my iPad on gigs. Here's a photo of it in action on a gig, with a Crumar Mojo and Take 5: Quote Turn up the speaker Hop, flop, squawk It's a keeper -Captain Beefheart, Ice Cream for Crow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah DC Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, dazzjazz said: Perhaps a silly question, but does this stand go low enough for regular seated playing, ie piano height? It looks like it might be a bit higher than that. also, does the cross-bar get in the way of inputs/outputs on your keyboard? Yes. Unlike many keyboard stands I’ve encountered (such as the Invisible), the 18880 can actually be played at real piano height. No, the stand doesn’t get in the way of any inputs. Honestly, I can see how folks are skeptical this stand would be sturdy enough, but there is really no reason for concern. I’ve put these things through the ringer on a van tour and during dozens of city gigs, and I’ve had no problems whatsoever. It just works. There was a great thread on here with everyone’s 18880 mods, but unfortunately it may have been lost in the mix somehow. FWIW, there are open box 18880s for sale right now at a discount on eBay, reverb, and Amazon. Quote Numa X Piano 73 | Yamaha CP4 | Mojo 61 | Motion Sound KP-612s | Hammond M3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niacin Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 I cut down the second tier support so that the tier arms just clear the lower keyboard 1 Quote Gig keys: Hammond SKpro, Korg Vox Continental, Crumar Mojo 61, Crumar Mojo Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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