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I like Linda, but she deserved this.

 

She shouldn't subject her audience to her personal political opinions. It doesn't matter what those opinions are. She should know better! :mad:

 

The audience came to hear her sing - NOT to hear her pontificate. Sheesh! :rolleyes:

 

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i know where you're coming from but and forgive me

if I'm mistaken aren't artist especialy music artist the ones who've been expressing these views

the most through out history, I don't think anyone should be suprised when something like this

or a dixie chick or whatever does this, and other artist do it also against the left, liberals, or democrats but nobody is losing jobs over it.

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Linda didnt espouse her political beliefs in a speech, she just dedicated a song

to Moore. Sheesh.

 

This is the Amerika we in today.

 

You cant say anything bad about Bushler or you will get fired and/or boycotted.

 

Man, if Bob Marley were alive today, he would be SINGING about this stuff and not just simply dedicated a song to Moore.

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They should keep their political views to themselves when they are being paid to perform. Woodstock is over. Personally, I don't give a damn what their political views are. I'm tried of Sheryl Crow, Barbara (Ms. Liberal) Steisand (spell?) and a host of other bleeding heart liberals using their fame as a podium. I don't like EITHER party, not the Repulicans or the Democrats. The two party system is a failure, you have to be rich to run and you end up with your hand of the pocket of the corporations whose money you need to get elected. Gee "I guess I owe them a favor or two, huh?" Washington's America has turned into King George's Great Britain. It sucks, but its not going to change any time soon.

 

I'm ranting now,

 

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I agree, based on just her dedicating a song, it seems very knee-jerk reaction to me. Many people are very close-minded. Either you are on their side or they want to have NOTHING to do with you. I go to concerts sometimes and the artist might say something I don't agree with but big deal, I get over it.

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Go Linda! This is the best thing I ever heard about her.

 

Long rambling political speeches during a concert may be inappropriate, but she is certainly entitled to make brief comments. We all have a duty to speak out against unjustified wars, oppression and corruption.

 

If people find that offensive that's their problem. We all have to put up with plenty of flag waving, religionist B.S. at public events on a regular basis. It doesn't hurt anyone to occassionally hear another point of view.

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Before her concert, Ronstadt had laughingly told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that she hoped that the casino performance would be her last.

 

She knew exactly what she was doing. I'm sure it's hard to be completely irrelevant these days.

"For instance" is not proof.

 

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Hey...when a 1/4 of your paying customers walk out...

...that ain't good for biz...

...and THAT'S what the Aladdin decision was about...biz.

 

Linda made it political...not the Alladin.

 

She could have done many tunes that would not have botherdd anyone there...but she specifically chose to turn it into a political statement. :rolleyes:

 

There's a time and place for politics...she chose poorly.

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Originally posted by AKA:

You dont see liberals actively trying to boycott...

Now you are stereotyping and generalizing... :rolleyes:

 

It was about biz...$$$...

 

...don't turn it into a political thing.

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As I said, I wish they would keep their political views to themselves when they're entertaining, and being paid for it. If they want to go to their party's convention, donate to relection compaigns on their own time, that's fine. What they believe is not going to change my political point of view during a concert. Again, I don't like either party. They're a fine imitation of Mutt and Jeff.

 

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For 25% of the audience to walk out it had to be more than just "This goes out to Mr. Moore". What really gets me is the comment she made to the newspaper before the concert. "I keep hoping that if I'm annoying enough to them, they won't hire me back." That is reason enought to escort her out and not hire her again. It sounds like she wanted to piss them off. If people do not want to play, why not just say "No"? I'm sick of performers who keep doing it one more time for the money. :mad:

 

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Originally posted by Is There Gas in the Car?:

I like Linda, but she deserved this.

 

She shouldn't subject her audience to her personal political opinions. It doesn't matter what those opinions are. She should know better! :mad:

 

The audience came to hear her sing - NOT to hear her pontificate. Sheesh! :rolleyes:

 

Is There Gas In The Car? :cool:

What if she had dedicated the song to President Bush? Would that have been acceptable?

 

Hey, maybe she wasn't trying to be political. Maybe she has a huge crush on Michael Moore.

The Black Knight always triumphs!

 

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Originally posted by MikeT156:

Personally, I don't give a damn what their political views are. I'm tried of Sheryl Crow, Barbara (Ms. Liberal) Steisand (spell?) and a host of other bleeding heart liberals using their fame as a podium. I don't like EITHER party, not the Repulicans or the Democrats.

How about those country asswipes who sing pro-kick-butt pro-war pro-let's-go-kill-some-brown-people songs? Should THEY be physically removed from their concert venues?

The Black Knight always triumphs!

 

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Hi Dan! :wave: I was waiting for you to chime in! :D

 

We should take this to the political forum (which would kill it for me because I never go there!) :)

 

I'm an independent, politically. Talking about politics can polarize people who would otherwise be friendly to one another. Who needs that? Not me.

 

I simply believe that Linda - and all the rest - should not discuss politics, religion, or anything controversial at a concert.

 

When I attend a concert, I go to hear the music and forget about the things that stress me out. These include politics, religious issues, work-related issues, etc. Why do entertainers think that it is their duty to impose their beliefs upon their audience? How pompous is that? First we have to pay outlandishly high ticket prices. Then it's $8.00 for a beer! Did I mention $25 and up for a T-shirt that you can see through? Hearing your favorite entertainer talk politics is just a kick in the face! I don't care if they talk in favor of the Republican party or the Democratic party - they are wrong when they do it.

 

Linda Ronstadt did indeed know what she was doing - just like Janet Jackson knew what she was doing at the Superbowl. This is offensive to those of us who pay hard-earned money to relax at a concert or sporting event.

 

Who do these people think they are, anyway - Celebrities Gone Wild?

 

Sheeeeeeeeesh! :rolleyes:

 

Your turn, Dan... :)

 

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Originally posted by hard truth:

[QBIf people find that offensive that's their problem. We all have to put up with plenty of flag waving, religionist B.S. at public events on a regular basis. It doesn't hurt anyone to occassionally hear another point of view.[/QB]

Bingo, you win the prize. :thu:

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Originally posted by hard truth:

... If people find that offensive that's their problem. We all have to put up with plenty of flag waving, religionist B.S. at public events on a regular basis. It doesn't hurt anyone to occassionally hear another point of view.

Since when does Democrats = flag burning atheists?

 

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I dunno. From her comments before the show, it sounds like she got exactly what she was after. A knee-jerk reaction from the casino where she was tired of working anyway.

 

While I disagree with the manner in which she terminated the gig, it got the job done.

 

I agree that performers are there to entertain, not to further their own socio-political agenda.

 

In small words, Shut up and sing!

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Originally posted by MikeT156:

They should keep their political views to themselves when they are being paid to perform. Woodstock is over. Personally, I don't give a damn what their political views are. I'm tried of Sheryl Crow, Barbara (Ms. Liberal) Steisand (spell?) and a host of other bleeding heart liberals using their fame as a podium. I don't like EITHER party, not the Repulicans or the Democrats. The two party system is a failure, you have to be rich to run and you end up with your hand of the pocket of the corporations whose money you need to get elected. Gee "I guess I owe them a favor or two, huh?" Washington's America has turned into King George's Great Britain. It sucks, but its not going to change any time soon.

 

I'm ranting now,

 

Mike t.

You know, the weird thing is that the Michael Moore movie sounds just like your rant here- same themes, same points...

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I can't imagine wanting to be reminded of all that mess during the beautiful singing that happens in a Linda Ronstandt concert...maybe NIN or something else with hardness and death in it already. I've seen here live - it was a thing of beauty ! :thu:

 

I also can't imagine being at a concert where the performer had contempt for me or the gig or didn't want to be there...yikes :mad:

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Originally posted by kylen:

I can't imagine wanting to be reminded of all that mess during the beautiful singing that happens in a Linda Ronstandt concert...maybe NIN or something else with hardness and death in it already. I've seen here live - it was a thing of beauty ! :thu:

 

I also can't imagine being at a concert where the performer had contempt for me or the gig or didn't want to be there...yikes :mad:

Couple of thoughts... she probably feels VERY strongly that the world situation is scary and that the movie is important. Maybe she's never done anything like this. But the world has never been like this, either.

 

Second, I think something else happened. I think the casino people and he must've already been butting heads over something. Why else would she say what she said before the show? It's out of context, so, hard to say.

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Yeah Duke & Bunny true enough. I was thinking more about me. Like - 'Hey I'm going to a LR concert to hear her sing' instead of 'Hey I'm going to a LR concert to hear what she thinks about the current state of affairs'.

 

I guess in these times (hehe) either you say something or you don't, chose a side - if not you're on the other side...still some people manage to walk thru all this with dignity - every generation.

 

It's hard to judge (but fun anyway!) without being there - print has longevity, her words would've possibly just floated to the floor in a live setting and been forgotten...just before kickin into 'Well I laid my head on a railroad track...' :thu:

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