CowboyNQ Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 How good? Congrats to a fellow Adelaide lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconoclast Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 I almost feel like he deserves better than that. I wish him all the good paying gigs in the world, and I'm sure Roger Waters is at the top of that list, but musically.... Well, let's just say that I'd much rather see the Lachey Doley trio in a 500 seater than Roger Waters in a 15,000 seater. So yeah: good for Lachey, can't help but root for dudes like him. Quote You want me to start this song too slow or too fast? Forte7, Nord Stage 3, XK3c, OB-6, Arturia Collection, Mainstage, MotionSound KBR3D. A bunch of MusicMan Guitars, Line6 stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Happy for him. Assuming all goes right with the world, the North American tour will begin in 15 months. Time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 I almost feel like he deserves better than that. I wish him all the good paying gigs in the world, and I'm sure Roger Waters is at the top of that list, but musically.... Well, let's just say that I'd much rather see the Lachey Doley trio in a 500 seater than Roger Waters in a 15,000 seater. So yeah: good for Lachey, can't help but root for dudes like him. I'm lucky enough to be seeing the Lachy trio next Saturday night in a room that seats 50 or so - can't wait Quote The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niacin Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 I almost feel like he deserves better than that. I wish him all the good paying gigs in the world, and I'm sure Roger Waters is at the top of that list, but musically.... Well, let's just say that I'd much rather see the Lachy Doley trio in a 500 seater than Roger Waters in a 15,000 seater. So yeah: good for Lachy, can't help but root for dudes like him. This. Quote Gig keys: Hammond SKpro, Korg Vox Continental, Crumar Mojo 61, Crumar Mojo Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyNQ Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 Well, let's just say that I'd much rather see the Lachey Doley trio in a 500 seater than Roger Waters in a 15,000 seater. Having been lucky enough to have done both over the last three or so years (although Lachy"s gig was more like a 200-300 seater) I can promise you they were both wonderful experiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 I'm lucky enough to be seeing the Lachy trio next Saturday night in a room that seats 50 or so - can't wait Have you met him in person yet? I bet he would like to meet you after having done the podcast. I hope you can do that. Quote "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelBLupowitz Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 No matter how proud I am of my original music, I don't think I'd ever turn down an opportunity to play In the Flesh in front of 15,000 people... certainly not for a Roger Waters-level paycheck! Quote Samuel B. Lupowitz Musician. Songwriter. Food Enthusiast. Bad Pun Aficionado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwyn Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 He"s class act. Saw him at a park in Pennsylvania. He came out after the show to make sure to meet people and take pics. Talked b3 for a few too. Before the show he was playing around with a family and talking to father and son checking out some keys they brought to show him. He definitely deserves the Waters gig and many more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Ampy0o Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Considering the impact of Covid-19 on live performance gigging it is truly a NO BRAINER just how great this opportunity is for Lachy Doley. If the long list of all that is necessary gets a green light people will choose to attend a Waters concert while they might be reluctant for many things less. I suspect it will have to be a pretty bright green light to get the pre-Covid turnout Waters was accustomed to but this could be something really great in a celebratory sense as well if everything is ripe. Roger Waters has been touring with a spectacular show in recent years. Regardless of being considered a curmudgeon he treated and paid his band extremely well even when his tour was getting a disappointing turnout at the beginning of his solo career. Waters is rolling in wealth. He could retire. He has made his contribution to the world. He does not have to tour. These later tours have been as much about making the most of his legacy as they have been about the political platform they provide. Doley gets to experience being part of one of the greatest shows that have ever been assembled AND they are paying him! and quite well at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 As far as gigs people would take for the money and hold their nose at the music... Roger Waters is on the list? Must be a pretty long list... Quote Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adan Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I would never fault a musician for taking any good paying gig. But I'm just curious whether he's being hired to be the Lachy Doly we know from his own band or, instead, just a super-competent Hammond player. I've seen Waters live and organ was an important part of the mix, but it was also very much a subtle, supporting instrument. "Subtle" and "Lachy Doly" are not words I'm used to thinking of in the same sentence. No wrong answer to this question, just curious to see how it plays out. Quote Gigging: Crumar Mojo 61, Hammond SKPro Home: Vintage Vibe 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I would assume he's playing the gig as a gig, with perhaps a spotlight moment or two where he might show off a bit more. Perhaps a little extra flair and sauce in the parts, but still all of the parts. Quote Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 as used to be said often in this forum, "What does the gig pay?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider76 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Wait... are we really questioning that a great Hammond player has been hired to play in the most popular hammond-driven music EVER? Pink Floyd music at its heart is hammond, minimoog and Gilmour's guitar. Apart from being probably the most epic and iconic music that the 70s gave to the world. I think any keyboard player in his proper senses would pay hard cash to be given that honor...and instead people here are talking like it's somehow a slight at Doley's abilities? Man, this is a really tough crowd I'm just curious whether he's being hired to be the Lachy Doly we know from his own band or, instead, just a super-competent Hammond player. When I saw The Wall tour the band was playing the record, note for note. Even the solos. I'd give it for granted that Doley will do the same, or Waters will eat him alive after -or more probably, during- the first show. ... perhaps a spotlight moment or two where he might show off a bit more. Perhaps a little extra flair and sauce in the parts, but still all of the parts. I don't know, Waters has been ripping apart for 40 years the last musician who tried to steal the show from him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I'm lucky enough to be seeing the Lachy trio next Saturday night in a room that seats 50 or so - can't wait Have you met him in person yet? I bet he would like to meet you after having done the podcast. I hope you can do that. Hey Joe - I haven't met him yet but plan on introducing myself on Saturday night - will try to get a pic Quote The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Wait... are we really questioning that a great Hammond player has been hired to play in the most popular hammond-driven music EVER? Pink Floyd music at its heart is hammond, minimoog and Gilmour's guitar. Apart from being probably the most epic and iconic music that the 70s gave to the world. I think any keyboard player in his proper senses would pay hard cash to be given that honor...and instead people here are talking like it's somehow a slight at Doley's abilities? Man, this is a really tough crowd I'm just curious whether he's being hired to be the Lachy Doly we know from his own band or, instead, just a super-competent Hammond player. When I saw The Wall tour the band was playing the record, note for note. Even the solos. I'd give it for granted that Doley will do the same, or Waters will eat him alive after -or more probably, during- the first show. ... perhaps a spotlight moment or two where he might show off a bit more. Perhaps a little extra flair and sauce in the parts, but still all of the parts. I don't know, Waters has been ripping apart for 40 years the last musician who tried to steal the show from him... WHen I interviewed Mr Doley he provided a couple of anecdotes that made it clear he very much understands his role in any band - he won't be showboating, unless Mr Waters wants him to. Quote The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adan Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 When I saw The Wall tour the band was playing the record, note for note. Even the solos.: I had the same experience and I remember complaining about it at the time. I couldn't comprehend why Waters would squeeze every last bit of spontanaeity out of the show. That note-for-note thing is the sort of band experience i've always tried to avoid as a player. Of course, my ethics on this point are infinitely flexible. Quote Gigging: Crumar Mojo 61, Hammond SKPro Home: Vintage Vibe 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider76 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 When I saw The Wall tour the band was playing the record, note for note. Even the solos.: I had the same experience and I remember complaining about it at the time. I couldn't comprehend why Waters would squeeze every last bit of spontanaeity out of the show. That note-for-note thing is the sort of band experience i've always tried to avoid as a player. Of course, my ethics on this point are infinitely flexible. I also used to cringe at the "note for note" approach, but no more after I played many years in a Beatles tribute, and saw the reaction of the audience when we tried some variations on the songs. People have been hearing and adoring those songs for 50 or more years. They are part of popular culture. And a tribute concert is not the place for fancy reorchestrations, reharmonizations etc: people go there because they want to hear the real thing, or something as close as humanly possible. If I want to see the Mona Lisa but can't afford a trip to Paris, I will try to get the best possible reproduction in a high quality book, poster or high-res pdf: I will NOT be satisfied with a smart "reinterpretation" with flashy colours and a big open smile. I guess that's what people going to those shows want. In my case, I appreciated the masterful musicianship in reproducing with such precision every nuance of the record, and most of all the mind-blowing visuals and effects: it was really The Wall in all its original awe-inducing glory brought into the 21st century, and I had goosebumps from literally the first second to the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Ampy0o Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Waters used to change the Pink Floyd songs. In The Flesh has examples of it. Jon Carin's Shine On You Crazy Diamond synthwork was beautiful, and dare I say an enhancement of Wright's original performance. What I have heard of Waters's changes was interesting to me. Sometimes the musician has lost touch with the spirit of the original music and when they change an old song the change does not work. Paul McCartney's live version of Fool On The Hill is extended (or was each time I saw him live at least) and the changes do not sound like anything The Beatles would have done. Gilmour said he told Waters fans want to hear the songs the way they know them when Waters attempted to get everyone doing them differently for Live 8. If you listen to the old bootlegs of Pink Floyd they were always changing them even from venue to venue. Sometimes the songs reached unrecognizable range. Gilmour was still changing them on the second to last Pink Floyd tour (without Waters). There are audience recordings of it. Gilmour's solo live show albums have many changes on certain songs. But there is a place and time for this and in the context of that Live 8 reunion it was not something people would expect or appreciate in Gilmour's view. Given The Wall tour was an anniversary tour Waters appears to have taken Gilmour's point to heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyNQ Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 I have a bootleg recording of a Waters concert from shortly after he split with Pink Floyd. Without getting off my lazy butt I believe it was made in NY circa 1985. In this performance he significantly modifies the arrangements of some much-loved PF classics. Some of the 'new' arrangements work magnificently and some sound a little overwrought, particularly when listened to with modern ears. On the most recent tour, titled 'Us and Them' he more or less played the PF tunes as they"re heard on the albums, but there were notable variations - Great Gig In The Sky immediately springs to mind, as does Welcome to the Machine. Based on first-hand and video evidence Roger appears to run a very tight and highly-choreographed musical ship. As an experienced side man and amazing player I suspect Lachy will thrive in this environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Here's some vid from tonight's Lachy Doley gig: I had a 10 minute chat with him after the gig - he's rather excited about the Waters gig but is all a bit surreal as well. Lovely bloke who was obviously thrilled to be back gigging. Quote The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I'd take that gig in a second. Quote Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Agreed - in my case though I'd assume the offer was a troll Quote The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Based on first-hand and video evidence Roger appears to run a very tight and highly-choreographed musical ship. As an experienced side man and amazing player I suspect Lachy will thrive in this environment.I saw a review/analysis of Water's "The Wall" show in (I think) Sound on Sound, which revealed that the entire show, start to finish, is run to a click. That allows synchronisation of music, lights, stage effects/pyros, props etc. Cheers, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconoclast Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 If you're a full timer whose house payment depends on your next gig/tour/session and your musical resume, of course it's a phenomenal gig. But I'd start practicing saying, "Yes Mr Waters." Quote You want me to start this song too slow or too fast? Forte7, Nord Stage 3, XK3c, OB-6, Arturia Collection, Mainstage, MotionSound KBR3D. A bunch of MusicMan Guitars, Line6 stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roygBiv Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 ...... Pink Floyd music at its heart is hammond, minimoog and Gilmour's guitar..... I'm just curious whether he's being hired to be the Lachy Doly we know from his own band or, instead, just a super-competent Hammond player. Along these lines, my first thought was maybe Waters wants Doley to apply his Whammy Clav magic to some of the iconic Gilmour solos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 If you're a full timer whose house payment depends on your next gig/tour/session and your musical resume, of course it's a phenomenal gig. But I'd start practicing saying, "Yes Mr Waters." If I'm hired by a successful touring act, I have no issue with saying "yes, sir" to the boss. Quote David Gig Rig:Roland Fantom 08 | Roland Jupiter 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 If you're a full timer whose house payment depends on your next gig/tour/session and your musical resume, of course it's a phenomenal gig. But I'd start practicing saying, "Yes Mr Waters." Because Roger Waters (or literally anyone executing an international tour) will be hiring weekend warriors with attitude Quote Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 ...... Pink Floyd music at its heart is hammond, minimoog and Gilmour's guitar..... I'm just curious whether he's being hired to be the Lachy Doly we know from his own band or, instead, just a super-competent Hammond player. Along these lines, my first thought was maybe Waters wants Doley to apply his Whammy Clav magic to some of the iconic Gilmour solos? Mr Waters found Mr Doley on the internet and then an approach was made Quote The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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