zxcvbnm098 Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 One of my all time favorite songs, with one of my all time favorite organ solos. Nice to see Mitchell Froom, the original producer and keyboard player who played the solo sitting in..... Merry Christmas.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Very nice. No Matt Sherrod on drums, so I took to wiki and found out that everyone who isn't Neil Finn or Nick Seymour, is another Finn (second generation). Pretty cool. Quote Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Loved this. 1. Nick Seymour isn't exactly the last word in technique, but man does he have a deep pocket. His sense of time slays me on every listen 2. Neil Finn has a harp in his home studio. That's the last word in cool. 3. Whoever said (I paraphrase) "it's better with a Hammond on it" is absolutely right. Cheers, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 One of my favorite songs form the 80's. Never got to play it while in a cover band. That is probably a good thing. Playing a song 5 nights a week usually ruined it for me. Quote This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Thanks for posting this! Inspiring to hear, and very timely. No offense meant to other artists, but most of the the album-based cover versions that have been released simply don't do it for me; Paul Young's version was very well done though. This song is a favorite, maybe even the top of the bunch for me. Loved its use in the original movie version of Stephen King's The Stand. Covered it once, and am grateful that the band agreed to stick close to the original arrangement. Simple, but very soulful keyboard parts. Quote 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Saw the current version of Fleetwood Mac a couple years ago. I was pleasantly surprised when they played this. Quote Stuff and things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonglow Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Mitchell Froom is a tasty player. I especially like the work he did with Ronnie Montrose/Gamma. Quote "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad’Dib Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 I know I"m still a kid here, because I was 15 when this song was released. I enjoyed it. Still holds up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 My favorite part of this song is the guitar hammer-ons after the organ solo, which always reminded me of Hendrix's Wind Cries Mary - and he BLEW IT on this version. Other than that, very nice. Quote Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzzz Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Jupiter 8! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I know I"m still a kid here, because I was 15 when this song was released. I enjoyed it. Still holds up today! I was 6 Quote Stuff and things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffk Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Once asked which song he wished he"d written, Paul McCartney said this one. Ace. Quote YouTube music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Very cool! I've always wanted to try this in a band, this might be one to pull out for certain gigs. First--if I want to sing it--I'll do a cover at home and present to the band. Head voice aside, he has a bit higher range than me, though we play a half-step down anyway. I used to sing Something So Strong and that was a bit of a stretch. I JUST realized I had one of the lyrics wrong despite hearing this since forever...."To build a wall between us" I always heard as "To be the war between us"...the actual lyrics make more sense Just one of those things you hear wrong and then cement it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 That video led me to this one: - a performance of Something So Strong. Help me: what is the instrument above Mitchell Froom's Hammond? It's too small for a celeste, surely. Cheers, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 ya know, on the second organ solo, he really blew it on the grace note by 6 milliseconds. Other than that it was great ----- says the Oddly Overly Critical Keyboard Forum. Quote David Gig Rig:Roland Fantom 08 | Roland Jupiter 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 ya know, on the second organ solo, he really blew it on the grace note by 6 milliseconds. Other than that it was great ----- says the Oddly Overly Critical Keyboard Forum. I thought people had been universally positive about this, and Froom in particular. What did I miss? Quote Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I JUST realized I had one of the lyrics wrong despite hearing this since forever...."To build a wall between us" I always heard as "To be the war between us"...the actual lyrics make more sense Just one of those things you hear wrong and then cement it in. Same. Quote Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 ya know, on the second organ solo, he really blew it on the grace note by 6 milliseconds. Other than that it was great ----- says the Oddly Overly Critical Keyboard Forum. I thought people had been universally positive about this, and Froom in particular. What did I miss? My favorite part of this song is the guitar hammer-ons after the organ solo, which always reminded me of Hendrix's Wind Cries Mary - and he BLEW IT on this version. Other than that, very nice. This..... Yes it has been a positive thread. the above stood out to me. Quote David Gig Rig:Roland Fantom 08 | Roland Jupiter 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 My favorite part of this song is the guitar hammer-ons after the organ solo, which always reminded me of Hendrix's Wind Cries Mary - and he BLEW IT on this version. Other than that, very nice. This..... Yes it has been a positive thread. the above stood out to me. Got it. It's a next-generation Finn on guitar, so he probably got a pass on this. Quote Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 ya know, on the second organ solo, he really blew it on the grace note by 6 milliseconds. Other than that it was great ----- says the Oddly Overly Critical Keyboard Forum. I thought people had been universally positive about this, and Froom in particular. What did I miss? My favorite part of this song is the guitar hammer-ons after the organ solo, which always reminded me of Hendrix's Wind Cries Mary - and he BLEW IT on this version. Other than that, very nice. This..... Yes it has been a positive thread. the above stood out to me. Well c'mon. Blew it plus very nice. Doesn't that balance out to pretty nice? or nice minus? I didn't mean to tweak anyone's knobs, but that particular part is where I always turn up the car radio in anticipation, and I was looking forward to hearing it in this one too. Quote Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Got it. It's a next-generation Finn on guitar, so he probably got a pass on this. Actually, that may have been it. He may not have been happy having to play someone else's licks. Quote Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfloydcramer Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Whiter Shade of Pale for the 80's, to me, which joins it on my list of secular "hymns" that are fun to play on the A100 as I stumble along on the pedals. I remember in '86 how the charts were so DX7 crazy. I think it had been a while since a hit song had featured a B3 solo, then there was this one and Huey Lewis' Stuck On You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxcvbnm098 Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Whiter Shade of Pale for the 80's, to me, which joins it on my list of secular "hymns" that are fun to play on the A100 as I stumble along on the pedals. I remember in '86 how the charts were so DX7 crazy. I think it had been a while since a hit song had featured a B3 solo, then there was this one and Huey Lewis' Stuck On You. This for sure. When this came out, I had just moved to West Hollywood after (mercifully) graduating from college, and heard not the song, but a radio advertisement for the album on the radio. The ad played a snippet of the tune and part of the organ solo. I was so moved by the song I drove directly to the Tower Records on Sunset and bought the single. I also recognized the nod to Whiter Shade of Pale. It remains one of my desert- island songs, and the reason I bought the new Hammond XB-2 when it came out a couple of years later after seeing it at the NAMM Show. I have briefly played it in a band, and it was tad too high for me in the original key. Next time I'd move it down a step...solo in D. Here's a version of Neil playing with string section playing the organ and guitar solos. It sounds lovely as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Sherry Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 what is the instrument above Mitchell Froom's Hammond? Looks like it could be a Virginal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyNQ Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Love this song and organ solo. I also love Better Be Home Soon by the same artists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 This song is so haunting. A masterpiece in my opinion. Great organ solo. One thing that struck me while trying to play this tune real quick by ear a couple of years ago was how non intuitive the vocal melody was in relation to the chords. And how brilliant it is! Quote Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Harrison Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I really liked this particular class of 80's pop. Crowded House, Tears for Fears, Mr. Mister, Squeeze...the bands with bass players, basically. Quote Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Tangentially... "ENZSO" is a bunch of fully orchestrated Split Enz songs, I think it's wonderful... Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 what is the instrument above Mitchell Froom's Hammond?Looks like it could be a Virginal.Thanks JB. I had to go and look that up - it certainly looks like a virginal. However a virginal doesn't match the sound - Mitchell's tone is very much that of a bell/tine/glockenspiel, while a virginal resembles a harpsichord in tone. Maybe he's gutted it, put in a scanner and a MIDI conversion kit? EDIT: I've always pictured a celeste as resembling a 5-octave miniature upright piano. But you can get 3-octave "tabletop" celestes - however I haven't seen any with the reverse black/brown keys and the mechanism to the side Cheers, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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