Markyboard Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 [video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUrBE38cseA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Please find out who she is, I will marry her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyNQ Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Certainly someone with her priorities in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRollins Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 The ones she's shown catching are empty--note how high they're floating. However, kegs have value, even empty, so I suppose it's worthwhile. Grey Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyboard Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 Maybe it's lite beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyNQ Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 The ones she's shown catching are empty--note how high they're floating. However, kegs have value, even empty, so I suppose it's worthwhile. Grey Grey, you"ve been uncharacteristically grumpy ever since someone accused Jaco of being an over player. Be of good cheer my brother xx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRollins Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 As it happens, I'm also a brewer...my Belgian Tripel, Barley Wine 2.1, and my Light Barley Wine* are to-die-for. My Imperial Stout is only a red-headed hair less desirable. My Oatmeal Stout is, I confess, two hairs less--shameful, because oatmeal stouts are the reason I took up brewing. I'll get there. I've got a pretty good Dopplebock, too, but it's been a while since I've made a batch. Mundane things like IPAs, etc. I leave for the amateurs to hack at. I take beer seriously...very seriously. Grey * That's light as in color, not "Lite" as in calories, alcohol, or flavor. Making a barley wine (a beer, in spite of the name) that is light in color is an interesting technical challenge...one I undertook gladly, as I am inordinately fond of barley wines. Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyNQ Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I take beer seriously...very seriously. I"m Australian. I drink beer seriously...very seriously. We"d be the best of mates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRollins Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 The last band I was in, I was a very popular fellow...always taking a bit of my latest batch along to practice. For some reason those fellows always seemed particularly thirsty on practice nights... The problem I face is that there's no winter anymore. Pre-refrigeration, the Germans could only brew in the winter. They were dependent on the cold. This was the origin of Oktoberfest; it marked the opening of the brewing season--a very good thing to celebrate. I have refrigeration, which is good, but lack some of the expensive hardware required to separate trub (coagulated proteins from the hot break) and spent hops on the way to the fermenter. Big breweries have closed systems that allow for sanitary transfer from the boiling tun to the fermenter, filtering out the unwanted stuff along the way. Little fellers like me have to do their filtering by hand, which means the top's off the system and the wort (unfermented beer) is exposed to the air in the room. That means bad stuff like lactobacillus (the same bacteria that spoil milk) can get in your wort and spoil the batch. A proper winter kills a lot of the nasties in the air and greatly reduces the chances of infection. However, winter scarcely exists these days and bacteria and wild yeasts float through the air all winter long. I don't want to brew lambics. I counted last winter and we only had something like a dozen nights where the lows even touched freezing, much less got below. Pathetic. I need a couple of good, hard cold snaps before I can get busy in my brewery and they just aren't happening. This year may be a little cooler. I've got my fingers crossed. So, you see, I have a very personal reason to dislike climate change. I want my winters back so I can brew. It's a very heartening sight to see eight or nine hundred bottles of beer on the shelf and right now there are none, dammit! Grey P.S.: I wouldn't mind a decent snowfall. Haven't seen good snow in over thirty years. I'm a kid at heart and want to build a snowman. A half-inch of snow that melts in an hour is not conducive to rolling up a worthwhile snowman! Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Little fellers like me have to do their filtering by hand, which means the top's off the system and the wort (unfermented beer) is exposed to the air in the room. That means bad stuff like lactobacillus (the same bacteria that spoil milk) can get in your wort and spoil the batch. A proper winter kills a lot of the nasties in the air and greatly reduces the chances of infection. However, winter scarcely exists these days and bacteria and wild yeasts float through the air all winter long. All the more reason to brew top-fermenting ales in a closed vessel. YMMV Quote Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I take beer seriously...very seriously. I"m Australian. I drink beer seriously...very seriously. We"d be the best of mates. I can attest to this, I've witnessed it. 20 years ago I lived in Fresno California - which was a "hub destination" for Australians since it is a day trip to see Yosemite, Sequoia National Park, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Morro Bay and other delightful places - AND hotel rooms are far less costly than some of these other wonderful places. At the time, I had a steady Fri-Sat gig at the Steak and Anchor Lounge (The Stanker) in the Piccadilly Inn at the airport. Top 40 Country, lead guitar for Jeff and Lorie's High Noon Band. We were on our last song of our second set when the Australians arrived and headed straight for the bar. There were 14 of them - 2 ladies and 12 gentlemen. When our 3rd set ended (4 set gig), I went to the bar and asked for a beer. The bartender swept his arm towards the Australians and said "They've drunk them all, there is none left." I got a shot and a big glass of water, mingled and we got back up on stage. Mixed drinks in hand, the dance floor filled with Australians. Except for getting more drinks, they stayed on the dance floor. Near the end of our last set one gentleman asked if he could sing I Saw Her Standing There. He appeared to be quite drunk but cheerful and friendly so they brought him up and we started faking our way through it. Jeff and Lorie went over to their "Treasure Chest" and within a minute or two our guest singer was wearing a condom had, a gigantic bra, a huge plastic butt and holding a rubber chicken. It was difficult to play while laughing that hard!!!! Yep, y'all got drinkin' DOWN!!!! Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUSSIEKEYS Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 P.S.: I wouldn't mind a decent snowfall. Haven't seen good snow in over thirty years. I'm a kid at heart and want to build a snowman. A half-inch of snow that melts in an hour is not conducive to rolling up a worthwhile snowman! What is snow??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyboard Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 P.S.: I wouldn't mind a decent snowfall. Haven't seen good snow in over thirty years. I'm a kid at heart and want to build a snowman. A half-inch of snow that melts in an hour is not conducive to rolling up a worthwhile snowman! What is snow??? And isn't it "snowperson"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRollins Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 All the more reason to brew top-fermenting ales in a closed vessel. YMMV The beers I listed are, with the exception of the dopplebock, top-fermenting; they're ales, as opposed to lagers, which are bottom-fermenting. They do ferment in closed vessels. The problem is in transferring from the boiling tun to the fermenter and removing the trub and hops in the process. The boiling tun is, by necessity, open. It has to be so the steam can escape. Up through the boil you can do anything you want, as the boil itself will kill anything that chances to fall in the wort. Once the flame is turned off, you're at risk from then on. Wort is very acidic and that acidity kills a lot of the bad things that fall out of the air. However, there are a few things (e.g. lactobacillus) that thrive in an acidic environment and they set to work immediately. So, here's an edited overview of the sequence: --Etc. --Turn off flame (the wort has been boiling for an hour, minimum, and in the case of the high gravity beers I mentioned, as much as three hours, sometimes more--it's sterile) --Cool the wort (in theory you can just let the wort cool on its own, but that takes all friggin' night and into the next day; I use a copper cooling coil that I boiled for the last ten minutes of the boil) --Transfer the wort from the boiling tun--in my case a 15 gallon beer keg with the top removed--to a 5 gallon carboy using a siphon --Pitch the yeast --Put the stopper in (if you've managed to avoid infection thus far, you're safe from here until you open the fermenter to commence bottling) --Etc. Things are safe until the flame is turned off. The cooling coil is pretty safe, having been boiled, and being made of copper (germs HATE copper). I have a lid that I put over the top of the boiling tun, but it leaves a gap where the cooling coil enters and leaves the tun. Technically, this could be a problem, but it's not really all that bad because the escaping steam (remember the wort is still very, very hot) is exiting the tun, creating an outbound airflow so that things can't get in easily. Considering that I don't take the wort all the way down to room temperature, there's always some positive pressure in the tun. So, with fingers crossed, we'll say that things are okay until the wort is cooled. Now the fun begins. The wort has to get from the tun to the fermenter. As the wort cooled, you transitioned through cold break, creating yet more trub (remember we had a hot break earlier that created big sheets of proteins, now we've gone and added more). That, and the hops, need to be filtered out...somehow. There are various way to approach this. The simplest way is simply to use a filter. But due to the large amount of trub and hops, the filter fills and clogs. So you've got to monkey with it. The wort is coming out of the tun via a siphon, so you've got to stop the siphon, clear the filter, restart the siphon, etc. Over and over. All the time, the wort is sitting open to the air. Ugh. Once I get the wort into the fermenter and pitch the yeast, the wort is no longer at risk of infection. I specialize in high gravity brews. Wimpy stuff like your average pale ale ain't got squat for a grain bill, so there's not that much stuff to worry about in terms of trub. Given that I brew all grain and lots of it (up northwards of 15 pounds of grist for some of my recipes), there's an ass-load of proteins coming out of the breaks and a lot of hops, even though I don't brew especially hoppy beers. (Huh? Why do you say you've got a lot of hops, but then say you don't brew hoppy beers? Answer: Hops utilization drops off as the original gravity of the wort increases. To get the same bitterness, you've got to use more hops.) The upshot is that there's lots and lots and lots of stuff that needs to be filtered out of the wort in order to get a good, clean fermentation. Yes, you could leave all the crap in your wort, but it affects the flavor a little bit and can clog the blowoff tube (that would be bad...really bad). Nah. Let's just get rid of it. The big boys use whirlpools or centrifuges and stuff. Me no gots that sort of money, so I've got to do it by hand, hence the Achilles Heel in my brewing rig. Beware: I can talk about brewing for, like, hours. Literally. I love brewing and I love beer. This is a keyboard forum, but I'm not shy and will happily write about brewing until my fingers fall off. You have been warned. Grey Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRollins Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 P.S.: I wouldn't mind a decent snowfall. Haven't seen good snow in over thirty years. I'm a kid at heart and want to build a snowman. A half-inch of snow that melts in an hour is not conducive to rolling up a worthwhile snowman! What is snow??? And isn't it "snowperson"? The last time I was able to build a snowman was so long ago that they were still snowmen! Grey Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 so, back on topic, anyone able to locate this woman yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUSSIEKEYS Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 P.S.: I wouldn't mind a decent snowfall. Haven't seen good snow in over thirty years. I'm a kid at heart and want to build a snowman. A half-inch of snow that melts in an hour is not conducive to rolling up a worthwhile snowman! What is snow??? And isn't it "snowperson"? Don't wiggle your "bloody" finger at me cobber. Hee hee I Have no game in that modernism. Please refrain from assuming. Hee hee Simply...... I live in a land down under ...we're without snow & Wintery wonder..hey was that the deleated line from the original lyrics? Ie: I have never seen this thing called snow...never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUSSIEKEYS Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 so, back on topic, anyone able to locate this woman yet? Ok yes I can help. I believe it may have been our Prime Minister's wife on a Hillsong Woman's Retreat. It was at Galston Gorge at Vision Valley before it got closed to be sold off as prime real estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyboard Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 so, back on topic, anyone able to locate this woman yet? Grey has the perfect woman for you right here in the US. She was a bit frigid at first but he say's she's since warmed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUSSIEKEYS Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 so, back on topic, anyone able to locate this woman yet? Ok yes I can help. I believe it may have been our Prime Minister's wife on a Hillsong Woman's Retreat. It was at Galston Gorge at Vision Valley before it got closed to be sold off as prime real estate. How do I know... well we used to get upstream and release a dozen or so empty kegs to float by vision valleys campsite Those poor ladies were onto those kegs like "dingos on a baby" such a dry weekend it was a pitiful sight. Oh the humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRollins Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Grey has the perfect woman for you right here in the US. She was a bit frigid at first but he say's she's since warmed up. A good barley wine will melt any woman's heart! Oh, wait, maybe we shouldn't melt her heart, or any other part of her... Grey Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Hey, if you guys want snow, I got some shoveling to do, you're more than welcome to take over. It's still coming down out there, probably have to get out twice today. Quote Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRollins Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I mean really, that s'now way to treat a woman! Grey Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyboard Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 I mean really, that s'now way to treat a woman! Grey If there's any doubt just how awful that was... I liked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRollins Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Grey Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 so, back on topic, anyone able to locate this woman yet? Ok yes I can help. I believe it may have been our Prime Minister's wife on a Hillsong Woman's Retreat. It was at Galston Gorge at Vision Valley before it got closed to be sold off as prime real estate. thank you for sharing. Just my luck, she's already married. Should have figured someone would have already done so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyboard Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 Pfttt. If it"s anything like the Crown the Prime Minister won"t care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 so, back on topic, anyone able to locate this woman yet? Why are videos of my mother being posted on here Quote The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyboard Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 Sorry David. Now that you mention it I do see the resemblance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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