Wewus432 Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Well I've been working up the Stones song today, which of course has been covered by every one and his brother, but that's part of the rock 'n' roll education, to learn the classics. I've played it about 15 times today I guess. I love that song, and I just nailed it, for the first time! YAY! I dropped it down a whole step from the record, and I can totally sing it in that key. You've got to understate some of the guitar part to make it sound right, and then up the volume during the chorus, and I'm loving it. Next step, record it on the mini-disc, to further refine. Wild Horses.........couldn't drag me away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Hey, I see you got your original screen name out of cyberspace lock. Cool song. One of the things about Keith's guitar playing is that it is DECEPTIVELY simple. It's technically not that difficult, but pretty hard for a lot of people to get it right - especially the feel. Ditto one of Keith's idols - Chuck Berry. How many times have you heard Johnny B Goode? How many times have you heard it done right? Are you going to post a link to it once you get it done? We'd love to hear it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondottcomm Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Good stuff!I'm doing the same with Street Fightin Man..Im workin on the acoustic guits now..Copping that sound is proveing to be more difficult than I thought LOL..Gotta try a cheap dynamic mic..Good luck..The Stones are a great band to work on for production practice!! What? you mean I can take this block of fine swiss and make a song??...COOL! Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tele Kinesis Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Watch out trying to play some of Keef's stuff in regular tuning! He used a lot of alternate tunings on a bunch of stuff. If I'd known that many years ago, it would have made playing some of that stuff a lot easier, and it would have sounded better. Check online for hints on some of those. You may even stumble onto the CORRECT ones. Tele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Great tune. I remember going to hear The Flying Burrito Brothers years ago and they covered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Knutson Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Ya gots too many streengs on that thar geetar, boy! https://bunny.bandcamp.com/ https://theystolemycrayon.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted May 5, 2004 Author Share Posted May 5, 2004 I'm fairly sure it's in standard tuning. I played along with the track and it sounded decent. There's actually three guitars on The Stones version, which is what gives it such a full sound, so I'm just trying to cop that feel with one guitar, and maybe add something of my own in there. I'll post a link if I get anything down to listen too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Keelan Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 If memory serves, Wild Horses is in Nashville Tuning which is basically using all the light strings from a 12-string set in standard tuning. Street Fighting Man is mostly, if not all, acoustic guitars, really overdriven. Lee will be here shortly to straighten us all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanner Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Linwood: Great tune. I remember going to hear The Flying Burrito Brothers years ago and they covered it.~RIP~ Gram Parsons he sang his ass off on that tune- glad to see the 'Burritos' referenced here- thanx s AMPSSOUNDBETTERLOUDER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted May 5, 2004 Author Share Posted May 5, 2004 Didn't The New Riders Of The Purple Sage cover that song? I can't find it in their discography, but I was thinking it was their version that used to play on the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylen Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Great tune. I remember going to hear The Flying Burrito Brothers years ago and they covered it. Cellar Door - Georgetown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Couple of anecdotes...first off, did anyone see that TV rockumentary with Chuck Berry totally browbeating Keith Richards for not playing some diddly little lick exactamundo? Berry struck me as quite a dick. Another thing about Chuck Berry...I jammed with a band in Anchorage a couple of times. The bandleader told the story of how Chuck Berry used to tour, he'd use the house band at wherever he happened to be playing. The band leader said "Everyone plays 'Johnny B. Goode' in 'A'. Everybody but Chuck Berry, who plays it in like Bb or something. So it turned into a disaster. Ah well, based on that TV thing...Berry had it coming. "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 I love that song. The Sundays did a fantastic cover of it. "That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." - Banky Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Base Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Rog: I love that song. The Sundays did a fantastic cover of it.I was just trying to think of who did a cover a few years ago (think it was used in Buffy the Vampire Slayer) with a lass singing, think it was this one. That is an excellent version!! Looking forward to hearing Wewus's!! Fa Fa FA Fa fa fa fa fa FA fa FA FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshananigan Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Rog: I love that song. The Sundays did a fantastic cover of it. David Grushavarin (or whatever) is one of my favorite guitarists! And I gotta say, I was crushin' a bit on Harriet Wheeler when "Here's where the story ends" came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Hanshananigan: Originally posted by Rog: I love that song. The Sundays did a fantastic cover of it. David Grushavarin (or whatever) is one of my favorite guitarists! And I gotta say, I was crushin' a bit on Harriet Wheeler when "Here's where the story ends" came out.Who wasn't? http://www.sirensofsong.com/harrietsmall.jpg I think she married David Gavurin and they had a baby. Still, she's not as cute as Stina Nordenstam http://www.opalmusic.com/a_to_z/pictures/stinanordenstam.jpg Anyway, the Stones ... Wild Horses, good ... isn't it? "That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." - Banky Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug osborne Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Cool! WH is a very passionate song. Post the recording when you finish, Steve. I agree, there were three guitars on the original recording, and one probably was Nashville tuning, and one was standard. I can speak from experience that Chuck Berry works as described above I took a year off my life one cold wet day on an outdoor stage in Maine many years ago... Doug Osborne Music on Bandcamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by dondottcomm: Good stuff!I'm doing the same with Street Fightin Man..Im workin on the acoustic guits now..Copping that sound is proveing to be more difficult than I thought LOL..Gotta try a cheap dynamic mic..Good luck..The Stones are a great band to work on for production practice!!Yep... LOL... "Street Fightin' Man" was done with nothing but acoustic guitars (except for the bass) actually. They were tuned to open D tuning, and recorded through a cassette recorder to get that overdriven sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Doug Osborne: I agree, there were three guitars on the original recording, and one probably was Nashville tuning, and one was standard. You are correct, sir! The electric guitar part was standard tuning. One of the acoustics is in Nashville tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted May 5, 2004 Author Share Posted May 5, 2004 Thanks Ed. I used to think it was a twelve string guitar on Wild Horses, but if you really listen it obviously is a Nashville tuning on one guitar. I think a guitar with a Nashville tuning is called the poor man's twelve string. Ack! Well I think I've figured out all the basic guitar parts and the vocal parts, BUT, there's that little instrumental after the second verse that just doesn't sound right with one guitar, soooo I need to figure out something there or just go straight to the third verse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondottcomm Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Originally posted by Lee Flier: Originally posted by dondottcomm: Good stuff!I'm doing the same with Street Fightin Man..Im workin on the acoustic guits now..Copping that sound is proveing to be more difficult than I thought LOL..Gotta try a cheap dynamic mic..Good luck..The Stones are a great band to work on for production practice!!Yep... LOL... "Street Fightin' Man" was done with nothing but acoustic guitars (except for the bass) actually. They were tuned to open D tuning, and recorded through a cassette recorder to get that overdriven sound.Yup open D..The Guitar parts are fairly easy..just coppin the groove..its gotta loose vibe to it Also the sitar{sp} adds a lot on sections,Piano,harp,claves,shakers.. They threw the kitchen sink in this one..LOL What? you mean I can take this block of fine swiss and make a song??...COOL! Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Originally posted by TheWewus: BUT, there's that little instrumental after the second verse that just doesn't sound right with one guitar, soooo I need to figure out something there or just go straight to the third verse.What??? Ack. Don't skip that little bridge. It's my favorite part of the song. All it does is go back and forth from an F to a C, dude. Keef does a neat little Keefism over that, but you can do some Wesusesque thing I'm sure would be excellent. Don't skip it. - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted May 6, 2004 Author Share Posted May 6, 2004 Yeah that is a cool little bridge, I'll have to do something there, and then there's another instrumental between where the chorus repeats after the third verse. Listen to that song on headphones if you can, it sounds really cool. You've got the Nashville tuned guitar on one side, then a regular guitar on the other side playing harmonics and bar chords high on the neck, and Mick Taylor's electric on both sides, on top of everything. I need to integrate some of those electric guitar licks somehow, into the acoustic part I'm playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antimatter Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Originally posted by Tedster: Couple of anecdotes...first off, did anyone see that TV rockumentary with Chuck Berry totally browbeating Keith Richards for not playing some diddly little lick exactamundo? Berry struck me as quite a dick. Another thing about Chuck Berry...I jammed with a band in Anchorage a couple of times. The bandleader told the story of how Chuck Berry used to tour, he'd use the house band at wherever he happened to be playing. The band leader said "Everyone plays 'Johnny B. Goode' in 'A'. Everybody but Chuck Berry, who plays it in like Bb or something. So it turned into a disaster. Ah well, based on that TV thing...Berry had it coming.Tedster, that was from 'Hail, Hail, Rock n Roll'. That movie/concert was done by Keef to celebrate Chucks 60th Birthday. And also to give the guy his due credit. Chuck is an odd guy, for sure. But he's bitter for good reason. He should have been 'King'. The song was 'Oh, Carol', that Chuck was busting balls on. I doubt Keith would let anyone give him shit like Chuck did. But I guess he felt Chuck deserved to bitch. It was almost like Keith took his BS to help try and give Chuck his due. Kind of like; where would Keith be if he hadn't heard those Berry tunes. Great movie for anyone who hasn't seen it. sidenote: This does not excuse Chuck video taping the womens bathroom at his club! (~1990 or so) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zele Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Originally posted by kylen: Great tune. I remember going to hear The Flying Burrito Brothers years ago and they covered it. Cellar Door - Georgetown was that performance with Sneaky Pete C Jo Go Crystal Studios http://fp2k.redshift.com/cjogo/recording_studio.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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