Dr88s Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I came across and thoroughly enjoyed this demo video from Daniel Fisher at Sweetwater. The question of why a keyboardist would want to cover guitar parts aside, I was very impressed by his approach to how to properly space chords and intervals based on the guitar type and musical genre - acoustic jazz, country pedal steel, etc. Clearly a knowledgeable player, and the instrument sounds great. [video:youtube]CLtwHzJ2s3g Quote Nord Stage 2 Compact, Yamaha MODX8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourniplus Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 He forgot to show how to tune it. ... Whenever I get a chance, I select an acoustic guitar patch, play the open strings, then start wiggling the pitch wheel while playing the "small E string" or B string. Then I play the usual guitar chords (E, C, G, D...) with the appropriate voicing, then wiggle the pitch wheel again while playing an open string. It doesn't sound that funny when I explain it, but it always makes the guys laugh during soundcheck Quote "Show me all the blueprints. I'm serious now, show me all the blueprints." My homemade instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardware Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Playing Guitar really helps keyboardists. Im not doing Acoustic Back ups on keys lately, just electric stuff, powerchords Shreddage 3, or ZZTop picked notes on Dracus. But besides playing one helping out doing parts, most importantly watching Bassists & Guitarists positions on the neck really helps out as you know what Key youre in, where youre headed, etc. We all wanted to be Eddie Van Halen in my neighborhood. Recently on FakeBook razzing my 6th grade drummer with the Guitarist about his Trixon Drums. Guitarist was happy about my playing backing parts at a reunion because keyboardist Guitar Parts are always non competitive with Main/only Guitarists. Seems Guitarists rarely accept Rhythm status and need coddling and cameos. Us keyboardists could care less about hurt feelings, inadequacies, etc. I thank my Ensoniq Mirage and Jan Hammer for making me woodshed. Quote Magnus C350 + FMR RNP + Realistic Unisphere Mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Guitar parts are a big deal on my originals- yes, I am 100% Kronos on every instrument. Above are 2 examples, where guitar parts are important in my mix. Mr Fisher does a good job on the basics, getting closer to the actual instrument I think guitar has to be approached aggressively , call it analog, what have you. Thus I believe ' attitude ' is the key to having decent guitar parts played on keys. Another big challenge is to play convincing leads. Its too easy to over do modulation, etc. Another tip is to resist the impulse to 'over play '. And to realize we are not going to sound like Jimmy Page, Eric or Jimi, etc, etc. Just my opinion since I experiment on getting more realistic with guitar parts on keys. Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 A very useful skill for a one guitar, one keyboard player band since there are lots of times when its the right timbre for the material. I just had to do it recently and voicing is as important as trying to replicate the strum and pick patterns. Quote Yamaha CP88, Roland VR-700, Crumar Mojo, rebuilt 1910 Chickering 5'2", Fender Rhodes MKI 88k, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I came across and thoroughly enjoyed this demo video from Daniel Fisher at Sweetwater. The question of why a keyboardist would want to cover guitar parts aside, I was very impressed by his approach to how to properly space chords and intervals based on the guitar type and musical genre - acoustic jazz, country pedal steel, etc. Clearly a knowledgeable player, and the instrument sounds great. I've known brother Dan for a very long time. He's a great player, a geek of incredible depth and is certainly completely obsessed with synths - he's forgotten more stuff than many folks I know. dB Quote ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Affiliations: Cloud Microphones • Music Player Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyFF Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Helpful tips! Ive often been envious of guitarists in many ways. They can pick up their instrument and carry it easily with them. It plays across the belly, the vibrations and pressure feels good there. With simple strums they can easily produce singalong accompaniment, its the instrument I recommend first to folks that want to sing as 10-15 chords will allow you to play hundreds of songs, That strumming creates a sound that is unmistakably guitar, so simple yet compelling, a sound Ive mostly been unable to replicate with my keyboard playing, though I havent studied how to do it. When I had my XS7 I remember there was an arpeggio? series you could buy that replicated guitar strumming, and Ive seen various apps that accomplish the same thing for Mac and PC. The closest Ive come on keys to playing guitars is playing both bass and lead and rhythm with guitar-like sounds, esp. distorted sounds. So much fun! I love how, lower or higher registers, it cuts thru the mix! Quote Kawai ES110 & ES920 /// Casio CT-X5000, CT-S500 /// Yamaha EW425 Yamaha Melodica and Alto Recorder QSC K8.2 // JBL Eon One Compact // Soundcore Motion Boom Plus // Win10 laptop i7 8GB // iPad Pro 9.7" 32GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrythek Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I came across and thoroughly enjoyed this demo video from Daniel Fisher at Sweetwater. The question of why a keyboardist would want to cover guitar parts aside, I was very impressed by his approach to how to properly space chords and intervals based on the guitar type and musical genre - acoustic jazz, country pedal steel, etc. Clearly a knowledgeable player, and the instrument sounds great. I've known brother Dan for a very long time. He's a great player, a geek of incredible depth and is certainly completely obsessed with synths - he's forgotten more stuff than many folks I know. dB This! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Dan Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Never had one, but does anybody recall the Oberheim Strummer? Edit: after a quick google search here it is. Anybody know if they were very effective? I've sequenced parts over the year where I did it manually, but that meant you couldn't quantize. Quote Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I sold a few in the mid/late 1990's, Dan. Don't recall them being popular. Also this was when Oberheim was owned by Gibson, so ... I'll stop there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardware Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 And what do you mean we wont sound like Jimmy Page or Hendrix? I make sure I do. Only instrument I CANT truly emulate is a Tenor/Alto Sax. People tell me I nailed it but my ears tell me different. Ive played with top shelf Reed men and Im not getting that Honk. I refuse to even play those licks because modeled or sampled, theyre weak. But Guitar, never been a problem. I actually stopped playing guitar because I saw the future when the Mirage came out in 85. FWIW my best Lead Patch is samples mixed with Modular Synth modules so I can get that crunch when returning to rhythm. My Pedal Steel stuff is very passable too. But you need to bend strings like the real C6 where other strings remain unaffected. Wavelore Pedal Steel is fantastic as it captures the tones from distance of the pick ups. Once you cop the Licks from Teach Your Children Well the Country stuffs a cinch. Texas Swing, well thats a different story. Playing that stuff is where youll woodshed from the best. Someday someone will put forth the effort of having Honks as an articulation and reedy sounding attack. Until then Im a section guy, no way Im going to commit the sin of sucking in front of people. Go hard or go home. Quote Magnus C350 + FMR RNP + Realistic Unisphere Mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam CA Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 ......But Guitar, never been a problem..... Man I wish I could say that! I dislike my Keyboard based Guitar playing very much so. I've got better at it but haven't been able to produce convincing results. Quote www.youtube.com/c/InTheMixReviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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