Synthoid Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 He also achieves the highly coveted award: first person to play Jump on the Moog One! [video:youtube]H7QvXC3w2H0 Somewhat anti-climactic. Quote When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Watch them build one: [video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I2XOJgKm7o Wonder if Mark works faster than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Sound designer Kurt Ader has a few videos up He also achieves the highly coveted award: first person to play Jump on the Moog One! [video:youtube]H7QvXC3w2H0 Sold! Totally worth spending $6k just to do that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 It's almost time to Dive in... live event: [video:youtube] Quote When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieP_MechE Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I like the sounds, but the website is really messed up now. Can't get to the specs for any product, and several synths do not appear any more - I doubt Moog suddenly discontinued them: Mother 32, Sub 37, Subsequent... Just sent an email reporting the website problems. What browser are you using? I'm not having any problems on Chrome. The website is also side-scrolling now instead of vertical scroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I like the sounds, but the website is really messed up now. Can't get to the specs for any product, and several synths do not appear any more - I doubt Moog suddenly discontinued them: Mother 32, Sub 37, Subsequent... Just sent an email reporting the website problems. What browser are you using? I'm not having any problems on Chrome. The website is also side-scrolling now instead of vertical scroll. Chrome. I was unable to side-scroll with my old Mac mouse. Side arrows though do work. I still cannot find the links to the specs or manual for any synth though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Listening to the livestream - just one oscillator definitely sounds louder/threat to dominate a mix than it does in any of the demos, including Youtube (which has built-in compression anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnderGroundGr Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Great sounds on soundcloud!!! Quote Kurzweil K2661 + full options,iMac 27",Mac book white,Apogee Element 24 + Duet,Genelec 8030A,Strymon Lex + Flint,Hohner Pianet T,Radial Key-Largo,Kawai K5000W,Moog Minitaur,Yamaha Reface YC + CP, iPad 9th Gen,Arturia Beatstep + V Collection 9,Osmose https://antonisadelfidis.bandcamp.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTalking Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Love the sound of the Moog One. Detest the horizontal-scrolling website. I mean, there's doing things a new, fun way and then there's unnecessarily upending conventions that work extremely well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Been looking forward to this demo. Dan Fisher mentioned that he had been working on the Moog One manual for a year and a half and it is THE synth he would like to spend time with: [video:youtube]ZQK2YiB1kjQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Aiken Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 His demo I think has been the most illustrative thus far. The next 3 weeks are going to draaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggg...... Can't wait to get my hands on this thing. Quote Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 The intro video led me to check out Paris Strother. Will definitely be checking out her band King - keyboardist-led, and a distinctive sound between Strother's synths and the dual vocals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 After hearing the Soundcloud demos, I'm fairly impressed. It feels like $6k-$8k worth of real Moog, partly depending on how the specs unfold. It could wind up being a serious nerve-center synth, especially with the CV Out. It also sounds very, very 70s/80s initially, but its also clear that some programming time can dispel the heavier aspects of that. That leaves just 2 questions: 1) Is the price 10% of your yearly net or 110% and 2) will your wife strangle you for even considering it. Quote "Well, the 60s were fun, but now I'm payin' for it." ~ Stan Lee, "Ant-Man and the Wasp" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Been looking forward to this demo. Dan Fisher mentioned that he had been working on the Moog One manual for a year and a half and it is THE synth he would like to spend time with: [video:youtube]ZQK ... Watched it ... It´s an awesome synth, I really like what it does and it has body and some individual character I hoped for,- something I sadly miss when digital synths emulate analog. Would like to read the manual. I wonder if there´s a internal "feedback" loop available on demand or if we´d have to realize it the old way by wireing an output to pre-filter ext. input,- and if that feedback-signal amount would be continuously variable, being controlled by a knob/CV/pedal and/or MIDI CC. A.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Aiken Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Pretty sure from the 2nd Amos video that there is no internal feedback nor drive. He'd did say that the gain structure is constructed so you can drive the signal if so desired. Quote Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newkeys Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Quote: "For the time being, I guess it´s a "chipsynth" like Memorymoog, now using the re-issues of CEM 3340, 3360 and 3310" Why do you say that? You don't think it's an all discrete synth? The Memory Moog was a "chip synth" as well? Have in mind that was one of my early posts in regards of the MOOG One. Yes, I guessed it is a "chipsynth" because the Memorymoog already was (CEM 3320, 3340, 3360 OSCs, VCFs & VCAs) and because the reissues of these chipsbecame available for the market this year. So, for me it was obvious. Up to now there´s no public info about which components are used for the analog signal path, but meanwhile,- and also because other´s in the forum came up w/ insinuation already,- I got the impression MOOG One is a different synth design than the Memorymoog was. Now we´ve read about 14.000 + components and up to 16 voicecards, which leaves room for more speculation. In fact, for it´s price I hope it´s not a "chipsynth" throughout. A.C. A little off-topic: The memorymoog had Curtis 3340 oscs, but the filters were real moog ladder filters, one per voice ... not curtis 3320 filter chips. A nerdy distinction maybe ... but the Moog filters are part of why the MM sounded as sweet as it did. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorymoog https://www.rosensound.com/2017/11/22/the-memorymoog-setting-the-record-straight/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEM_and_SSM_chips_in_synthesizers The One clearly sounds different than the MM in the demos so far, more modern Moog-y and not Curtis-like ... which makes sense since the One uses a Moog osc design, not the 3340 reissue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Pretty sure from the 2nd Amos video that there is no internal feedback nor drive. He'd did say that the gain structure is constructed so you can drive the signal if so desired. Thx,- one of the sub-outs into ext. input line-in then ... A.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 The One clearly sounds different than the MM in the demos so far, more modern Moog-y and not Curtis-like ... which makes sense since the One uses a Moog osc design, not the 3340 reissue. I´m happy it sounds somewhat different from the old MM. A.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Dan Fisher mentioned that he had been working on the Moog One manual for a year and a half and it is THE synth he would like to spend time with read Dan Fisher's resume'. Just search his name. If he says this is the one, then this is the one. No pun/ pun intended. Take your pick. As for me , I have 2 kids in college so it's not in my future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 OK, I've read the specs. The oscillators are triangle core. To synth nerds, this has a few implications. 1. Curtis and SSM oscillator chips, as well as a lot of early discrete ciruits, were sawtooth core. That means the original wave generated is a sawtooth, and the other shapes are derived. The triangle core oscillators sound fundamentally different, so no worries about it sounding like a Curtis synth. 2. They have done a clever thing with the Beats detune knob. It is a superior method for detuning a pair of oscillators for a chorused effect, that manages to keep the number of beats of detuning constant across the keyboard. Most old synths will beat fast and out of tune at the top of the keyboard range, and slow phasing almost in tune at the bottom. 3. The envelopes have a hold time on the attack to help give that Minimoog smack to the beginning of a note. 4. LFOs have some cool features like initial phase and number of cycles. 5. Saw and Triangle wave angles can be modulated, and then mixed with a Pulse/Square wave whose width can also be modulated. The Triangle wave will sound more pure than say the old Prophets because the core is already a triangle, instead of being derived from saw. Specs wise, this easily surpasses my Chroma and Chroma Expander combo. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jverghese Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1. Curtis and SSM oscillator chips, as well as a lot of early discrete ciruits, were sawtooth core. Nope. Curtis were triangle core, SSM were sawtooth. 2. They have done a clever thing with the Beats detune knob. It is a superior method for detuning a pair of oscillators for a chorused effect, that manages to keep the number of beats of detuning constant across the keyboard. This is an excellent feature on a polysynth. I think they have been monitoring this forum. Specs wise, this easily surpasses my Chroma and Chroma Expander combo. I wonder if the MoogOne's keyboard/voice assignment modes are as versatile as the Chroma's. All in all, looks and sounds like a cool synth. I've yet to hear a polysynth that sounds as good as the best monosynths, maybe the One will change that. -joachim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1. Curtis and SSM oscillator chips, as well as a lot of early discrete ciruits, were sawtooth core. That means the original wave generated is a sawtooth, and the other shapes are derived. The triangle core oscillators sound fundamentally different, so no worries about it sounding like a Curtis synth. Actually the CEM3340 is triangle core. Confirmed in a appnote publication from CES. Triangle core VCOs are inherently easier to maintain tempco variations. The SSM2030 VCO is indeed sawtooth core, in fact it is the same architecture as the SEM/OBX VCO. Many people knock 3340s because they don't stay in tune. They can actually be very stable. I just did a restore on a Memorymoog, and when I replaced the timing caps on the 3340s with mica caps (recommended by CES), the VCOs were rock solid on cold power up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 read Dan Fisher's resume'. Just search his name. If he says this is the one, then this is the one. No pun/ pun intended. Take your pick. Dan Fisher is one of the most knowledgeable synthesists in circulation. I've felt that way about him since reading some of his synthesis tips for VAST in Keyboard magazine, back in the dark ages when my hair was black and I had all of it. That's why I was looking forward to his perspective. He's also an all round good guy, and somebody with whom you would love to have a beer. Thats kinda how I feel about you, actually. As for me , I have 2 kids in college so it's not in my future. Dave, I feel your pain very precisely, but let's be positive. Death and taxes might be certain, but our kids will surely graduate. This too will end (I keep telling myself). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Another video with Dan Fisher. It's a short feature summary, but also, you can begin to hear (imo) more of his synthesists voice coming through in this video. Terrific sounds. One standout for me is the ring mod (or is it fm?) at 4.33 [video:youtube]1S_WPVvunBI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I expected at least a half-dozen more demos on YouTube by now. Surprising. :idk Quote When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 somebody with whom you would love to have a beer. Thats kinda how I feel about you, actually. hope we can make that happen some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechEverlasting Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I would love to eventually see something along the lines of a six-voice bi-timbral desktop unit built on this technology. Price it around $3K and it will sell like hotcakes without denting the market for its big brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 There's an AMA with Amos Gaines thread on Reddit in which he reportedly states that MPE support is planned as a future OS update to One. There's a link to that thread in the CDM article. https://cdm.link/2018/10/moog-one-polysynth-details/ Article also covers the mystery Ethernet port and other fun stuff. A stripped down module (I prefer to strip out the built-in FX and leave in the tri-timbral stuff) would be great with the MPE support - just plug in Linnstrument or whatever and off you go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Aiken Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Even though it is not shipping with MPE support, since it is tritimbral, you could have the same timbre for all 3 synths, presumably on different MIDI channels, and at least have 3 voice pseudo-MPE. I plan on trying that. Quote Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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