cedar Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 My jazz trio is playing a wedding party coming up. The client was looking for a jazz trio (piano, upright bass and drums) specifically, and I made it extremely clear when we were hired what to expect. As the date has approached, they've requested a few totally typical jazz standards plus the following tune. Ever get an odder request (to be played by a jazz trio)? [video:youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Ever get an odder request (to be played by a jazz trio)? :cofee: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Awesome!! www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonglow Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Awesome!! +1 Actually, I think we should all learn that song. "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyNQ Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Tell 'em you'll play everything from 3:40 onwards in the set break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewImprov Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I could totally hear this tune performed by a piano trio, there are some interesting harmonies that you could expand on. Thinking of Brad Mehldau's Radiohead arrangements. Turn up the speaker Hop, flop, squawk It's a keeper -Captain Beefheart, Ice Cream for Crow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedar Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 Yes, I can imagine a Brad-like interpretation, given some time to work it out. But I am certain that is not what the client envisioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Heslop Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Playing lounge piano in a restaurant I got a request for anything by Motley Crew. When I told him I didn't have anything by them, his second choice was Moonlight Sonata. I played a shortened version of that. It always struck me as an unusual pair for a request. Stage: Korg Krome 88. Home: Korg Kross 61, Yamaha reface CS, Korg SP250, Korg mono/poly Kawai ep 608, Korg m1, Yamaha KX-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Motif Max Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Well... I suppose it could be worse. I could see it working. Just skip the pseudo-metal part. Or, invoke Jordan Rudess. I had an accordion gig a few years back where a guy approached me, and asked the following: "Hey, can you play that song about chickens?" Me - "Which song?" "You know, that one about dead chickens finally being free?" Me - "Do you know the name of the song?" "Umm, "Free the Birds" or something like that. Until you play it, you aren't a real man or a real musician. Get with the times dude! Everyone knows the dead chicken song." Then he sat down on the edge of the stage and started swearing and throwing insults at me for the next 45 minutes. He wanted... "Freebird"...on accordion. And then there are the people who told me, "What kind of cut-rate musician are you!? You don't have a "Rap" category on your accordion list of songs?? What's wrong with you? Weirdo!" :idk Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, MX61, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76, PC4 (88) | Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Behringer CAT Yamaha Pacifica 112V & APX600 | Washburn WI64 | Ibanez BTB-675 | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Yes, I can imagine a Brad-like interpretation, given some time to work it out. But I am certain that is not what the client envisioned. It's nice that the client feels they can trust with you with an unusual request. Have you considered using "The Bad Plus" as one of your influences for this song? They operate at a less cerebral level than Brad Mehldau. When a client asks for something oddball along with conventional tunes, I figure all they are entitled to is a "best effort" on my part. Usually they are delighted that I took the trouble, despite my uncertainty or ambivalence. All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedar Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 Again, I agree it's possible to find a way to re-interpret the tune. But for this event, it's just not going to happen. I am not going to get a chance to rehearse with the drummer and bass player in advance. Because this tune actually has multiple time signature changes - from 4/4 to 6/4 and later from 4/4 to 3/4 - I wouldn't feel comfortable attempting it without either a quick rehearsal or a very clear chart. And then there's a matter of finding a suitable rhythmic feel. So the risk of butchering the tune without any rehearsal, I think, far outweighs any benefit. I am toying with the idea of seeing if I can come up with some kind of solo piano rendition. But ultimately the problem is that, the more I deviate from the original tune, the less it will be recognized and enjoyed by the client. Ultimately, I think they will be happiest if I just bring the actual recording and play it through our PA system. Anyway, the point of this thread was not to suggest the song is unplayable; I just found it a weird request to make of a jazz trio (especially in view of their other requests for very typical standards). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Sherry Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 It _is_ kinda jazzy though. It sounds like they started from a completely different place and ended up almost at jazz-rock fusion. The section with the heavy guitar lead could be covered by bowed bass, keeping the driving rhythm but with a soft dynamic instead of loud. It's a cool tune, but way more complicated than the typical pop-song request for a function. If you could find a chart and everyone reads well, I would do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 When specific songs are requested for a wedding, it's often because the lyrics resonate with the couple somehow. So I looked them up: Numina In the night move a cup Mowing grass at farm Numina Roman god wonderers Are beyond my sight Circle shapes and that's it! Cedar please follow up with a gig report. This may be quite interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Cedar please follow up with a gig report. This may be quite interesting! Absolutely, especially if you can chat with the guy and find out what he finds so compelling about this particular tune. I once had to learn Freedom Jazz Dance and The Tarantella for a country and western wedding gig. Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Awesome!! +1 Actually, I think we should all learn that song. I concur.. I'm working up an arrangement for my church gig; it's just what we've been looking for. This one should really get 'butts in the seats'. 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedar Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 When specific songs are requested for a wedding, it's often because the lyrics resonate with the couple somehow. So I looked them up: Numina In the night move a cup Mowing grass at farm Numina Roman god wonderers Are beyond my sight Circle shapes and that's it! Cedar please follow up with a gig report. This may be quite interesting! Will do. In the meantime, please provide your interpretation for these lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzzz Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Actually, I think we should all learn that song. Absolutely! My wife will hate it...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedar Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 Here is my brief gig report: Before guests arrived, I met the happy couple and explained why I didn't feel we could play the tune with this instrumentation in a manner that they would like. They were completely fine with it. I asked what was special about the song; they said that they simply liked the band. I asked what the lyrics meant; they had absolutely no idea. The gig itself was quite standard. First hour was a cocktail hour. We stayed out of the way, got a handful of compliments. The remainder was during dinner. Contrary to expectations, the guests weren't that interested in dancing. Played a few requests from the older guests. Afterwards, we received a lot of nice feedback. So this turned out to be a very mellow, undemanding and appreciative crowd. No one cared that we didn't play the tune mentioned in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulf Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Have you considered using "The Bad Plus" as one of your influences for this song? They operate at a less cerebral level than Brad Mehldau. "less cerebral level than Brad Mehldau"? The Bad Plus? :-) Rock bottom bass Fakebook Pro Sheet Music Reader - at every gig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Here is my brief gig report: Before guests arrived, I met the happy couple and explained why I didn't feel we could play the tune with this instrumentation in a manner that they would like. They were completely fine with it. I asked what was special about the song; they said that they simply liked the band. I asked what the lyrics meant; they had absolutely no idea. The gig itself was quite standard. First hour was a cocktail hour. We stayed out of the way, got a handful of compliments. The remainder was during dinner. Contrary to expectations, the guests weren't that interested in dancing. Played a few requests from the older guests. Afterwards, we received a lot of nice feedback. So this turned out to be a very mellow, undemanding and appreciative crowd. No one cared that we didn't play the tune mentioned in this thread. Excellent. Next time, consider having the conversation about the song in advance, rather than waiting until you got there for the event. This would let you find out why they want it and maybe even suggest a couple of replacements, or at least say, "OK, if we can't nail this particular one I have a couple of others that I think you're going to love." OR, flip side, it would let you find out that of all the songs, that was the most necessary, and then it's time to get your shred on in the woodshed for a couple of weeks. Glad it turned out well either way. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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