Muad’Dib Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 [video:youtube] Has anyone else on here, heard this version, of Imagine? It's just John at the piano. I think this is how, he had originally intended, the song to be released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 It's been making the rounds on Facebook. Love this version and prefer it to the album release. Thank you, John. The Angels of Libra The Drawbars | off jazz organ trio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Graul Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Would love to hear it without the delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Would love to hear it without the delay. John famously hated his voice, to the point where his attempts to mask it are why we have ADT as a tech today. I cant say I like this more, but its always cool to hear these first-offs. Thanks for posting. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad’Dib Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 You're Welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsetto Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I like raw. ... I miss the bass, drums, the assertive bass piano get-back, and the song's signature smooth, vocal overdubs. But, the piano sounds sumptuous. ... And on my 2nd listening, loud, it's grown on me. ... So a beat taken, a beat added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I have always suspected that Nicky Hopkins anonymously played the final piano studio recording version. Yoko really wanted Nicky to do it, we'll never know... Harry Likas was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and also helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Find 350 of Harry's jazz piano arrangements of standards, for educational purposes, and tutoring at https://www.patreon.com/HarryLikas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I love how John did this vocal. it sounds multi tracked and pan sweeped, very psychadelic [video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NumwxG3gYwY Harry Likas was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and also helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Find 350 of Harry's jazz piano arrangements of standards, for educational purposes, and tutoring at https://www.patreon.com/HarryLikas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 The power of repetition: [video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=audDh1q8YhU Harry Likas was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and also helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Find 350 of Harry's jazz piano arrangements of standards, for educational purposes, and tutoring at https://www.patreon.com/HarryLikas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad’Dib Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 This is also why, musicians and music lovers need to stick together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MushMusic Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 MIM E.M. Skinner, Casavant, Schlicker, Hradetzky, Dobson, Schoenstein, Abbott & Sieker. Builder of tracker action and electro-pneumatic organs, and a builder of the largest church pipe organ in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad’Dib Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 Very cool, seeing the actual piano. John used to write Imagine. Thank You for Sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Nathan Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 It's a writers demo, a work tape. Production critic seems out of place imho. How about that 5/4 bar between the 1st chorus and 2nd verse Don't rush me. I'm playing as slowly as I can! http://www.stevenathanmusic.com/stevenathanmusic.com/HOME.html https://apple.co/2EGpYXK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefsco Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Would love to hear it without the delay. John famously hated his voice, to the point where his attempts to mask it are why we have ADT as a tech today. I cant say I like this more, but its always cool to hear these first-offs. Thanks for posting. always loved his unique voice.....shame that he didnt appreciate it .... Jeff /// Yamaha P515 /// Roll Tide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I have always suspected that Nicky Hopkins anonymously played the final piano studio recording version. Yoko really wanted Nicky to do it, we'll never know... I felt pretty sure that I knew the answer to this, which was that I knew (thought) that he recorded it at home, basically first take, including band, which always seemed amazing to me. Turns out this is right and wrong. They did a bunch of passes at it in the studio withindeedNicky Hopkins playing an octave above John. But then they bagged all those and ended up recording at Johns house with just him on piano, and the rest of what I knew (thought) was true from there. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Quinn Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Love it! It's very cool hearing it as John heard it early on www.alquinn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I have always suspected that Nicky Hopkins anonymously played the final piano studio recording version. Yoko really wanted Nicky to do it, we'll never know... I felt pretty sure that I knew the answer to this, which was that I knew (thought) that he recorded it at home, basically first take, including band, which always seemed amazing to me. Turns out this is right and wrong. They did a bunch of passes at it in the studio withindeedNicky Hopkins playing an octave above John. But then they bagged all those and ended up recording at Johns house with just him on piano, and the rest of what I knew (thought) was true from there. Well its hard to separate the myth from the reality when it comes to John and Yoko. She really wanted Nicky Hopkins to play the final version because he was a better pianist. And she would likely have had Hopkins sign a non disclosure agreement, the legend is so much better if it matches the video they made of John playing a white piano alone in his living room while Yoko does the curtains ...Both men are dead so its hard to ever know what really happened...imo Harry Likas was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and also helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Find 350 of Harry's jazz piano arrangements of standards, for educational purposes, and tutoring at https://www.patreon.com/HarryLikas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Well its hard to separate the myth from the reality when it comes to John and Yoko. She really wanted Nicky Hopkins to play the final version because he was a better pianist. And she would likely have had Hopkins sign a non disclosure agreement, the legend is so much better if it matches the video they made of John playing a white piano alone in his living room while Yoko does the curtains ...Both men are dead so its hard to ever know what really happened...imo Well, if it helps, they did NOT record it on that white piano. It was in his home studio. And I truly doubt Phil Spector was going to conspire with Yoko over John about anything, or undermine his meal ticket. But I guess you never know. However, I think the Nicky Hopkins story might have arisen because he was on early attempts at it... www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I would love to hear those Nicky Hopkins sessions. Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod S Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 MIM Wow... was not familiar with this museum. Seems pretty cool! Korg Kronos X73 / ARP Odyssey / Motif ES Rack / Roland D-05 / JP-08 / SE-05 / Jupiter Xm / Novation Mininova / NL2X / Waldorf Pulse II MBP-LOGIC American Deluxe P-Bass, Yamaha RBX760 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I would love to hear those Nicky Hopkins sessions. Professor Google suggests that there is a scene in the movie Imagine that shows John teaching Nicky Hopkins the chords so he can double them on those first sessions. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Hmm, normally I love raw demos due to the passion and honesty -- for instance, the demos of Strawberry Fields Forever bring me to tears. And I love his bedroom demos that were meant for the next album in 1980. This one, however, doesn't sound too committed to my ears; more like a work-through to figure out what it needs. I also think the drumming by Alan White (later of Yes fame) and bass line by Klaus Voorman are superb and really add to the song, helping to accentuate key lyrical phrases as well. Eugenio Upright, 60th Ann P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico Bari, Dano Bari Select Strat/Tele, Am Pro Jazzmaster, LP 57 Gold, G5422DC-12, T486, T64, PM2, EXL1, XK4, Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Verelst Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 That effect sounds wonderful through certain well set uo Lexicon effects, those studio setups are for reasons, guys, At some point, these people could probably be pretty much in their own way any way they wanted to sound like a certain character, completely meaning it, or not at all. It's a different type of integrity .. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I always thought this was the scariest, most awful song ever written. Most people think it is about peace. Study the words and it is more about doing away with individualism. Like a cross between early Stalanizm and Nazi. No race. No religion., etc... Everyone exactly the same. This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 This one, however, doesn't sound too committed to my ears; more like a work-through to figure out what it needs. Exactly how I felt during the first listening. When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I always thought this was the scariest, most awful song ever written. Most people think it is about peace. Study the words and it is more about doing away with individualism. Like a cross between early Stalanizm and Nazi. No race. No religion., etc... Everyone exactly the same. I agree that I've always found some clumsiness in the lyrics, but have heard his point more along the lines of, what if we STOPPED finding reasons to blindly conform or differentiate based on what other people tell us to do, and start just being ourselves and loving others for themselves. (IOW, 70's flower-power fluffy happy bullshit.) www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-missRichardTee Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I always thought this was the scariest, most awful song ever written. Most people think it is about peace. Study the words and it is more about doing away with individualism. Like a cross between early Stalanizm and Nazi. No race. No religion., etc... Everyone exactly the same. I agree that I've always found some clumsiness in the lyrics, but have heard his point more along the lines of, what if we STOPPED finding reasons to blindly conform or differentiate based on what other people tell us to do, and start just being ourselves and loving others for themselves. (IOW, 70's flower-power fluffy happy bullshit.) [ comment removed You don't have ideas, ideas have you We see the world, not as it is, but as we are. "One mans food is another mans poison". I defend your right to speak hate. Tolerance to a point, not agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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