To B3 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 That sound and especially the solo by Steve Winwood always intrigued me. Sounds direct (no leslie, or stationary amp), very minimal yet present, and percussive on the solo section... Anyone tried to replicate? How did you do it? [video:youtube] My drawbars go to eleven. Gear: Roland VR-09, Nord Electro 2 61, Korg CX-3. Hear my music: facebook.com/smokestoneband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 It's played through a guitar amp, not a Leslie. The Angels of Libra The Drawbars | off jazz organ trio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B3 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 It's played through a guitar amp, not a Leslie. Yes, looks like it to me too. Wonder what drawbar or percussion settings are being used. My drawbars go to eleven. Gear: Roland VR-09, Nord Electro 2 61, Korg CX-3. Hear my music: facebook.com/smokestoneband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteinwayB Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 For the solo he begins with percussion only (all drawbars in) and gradually pulls out the drawbars. At the beginning of the tune sounds like no C/V, intermittently adds vibrato, no chorus. My ears are not yet astute enough to say which drawbars he is using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Wasn't Winwood on that particular track on that album, it was Tommy Eyre....he developed and played the organ intro for Cocker's version of - 'With Alittle Help From My Friends' also. . . a London session stalwart! from Wiki: '8. "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood"' Tommy Eyre - piano (track 5), organ (tracks 8 & 9) SP6, CP-50,YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, XK-3, CX-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 It's a Nord Lead. Moe --- "I keep wanting to like it's sound, but every demo seems to demonstrate that it has the earth-shaking punch and peerless sonics of the Roland Gaia. " - Tusker http://www.hotrodmotm.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicale Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Legatoboy- Yeah that does not sound at all like Winwood or Stainton...I just listened to it. Unfortunately or fortunately I remember getting this the day it came out, especially after seeing Joe with the grease band at the Electric Theater/Kinetic playground in the late 60's. Musicale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B3 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 For the solo he begins with percussion only (all drawbars in) and gradually pulls out the drawbars. At the beginning of the tune sounds like no C/V, intermittently adds vibrato, no chorus. My ears are not yet astute enough to say which drawbars he is using. Sounds like a very hollow registration. That no drawbars-just percussion thing is very interesting, gonna experiment with that. My drawbars go to eleven. Gear: Roland VR-09, Nord Electro 2 61, Korg CX-3. Hear my music: facebook.com/smokestoneband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B3 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 Wasn't Winwood on that particular track on that album, it was Tommy Eyre....he developed and played the organ intro for Cocker's version of - 'With Alittle Help From My Friends' also. . . a London session stalwart! from Wiki: '8. "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood"' Tommy Eyre - piano (track 5), organ (tracks 8 & 9) Oops, my bad, guess I heard it somewhere some time ago and "misunderstood" (sorry lol) and came here directly without confirming it. My drawbars go to eleven. Gear: Roland VR-09, Nord Electro 2 61, Korg CX-3. Hear my music: facebook.com/smokestoneband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 To B3, no problemo!...Hey I didn't know who it was originally when I looked at this thread today...and Winwood did play on that album also, so...I am just aware of his name (Tommy Eyre), not so much his work...the whole thing just got me interested so I headed over to Wiki...I played the tune in a recent band ...good tune, I like that diminished chord in there on the 2nd go through of the verse, cool little feature of the tune for me and my personal yayas! Wasn't Winwood on that particular track on that album, it was Tommy Eyre....he developed and played the organ intro for Cocker's version of - 'With Alittle Help From My Friends' also. . . a London session stalwart! from Wiki: '8. "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood"' Tommy Eyre - piano (track 5), organ (tracks 8 & 9) Oops, my bad, guess I heard it somewhere some time ago and "misunderstood" (sorry lol) and came here directly without confirming it. SP6, CP-50,YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, XK-3, CX-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmammal Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I don't think it's straight to an amp, it sounds like a leslie on stop to me. I agree with the drawbar/percussion comments. That hollow sound is simply removing some or all of the 16' something like this, first four drawbars 3884. Bob Hammond SK1, Mojo 61, Kurzweil PC3, Korg Pa3x, Roland FA06, Band in a Box, Real Band, Studio One, too much stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammondDave Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 What a great track! Thanks for turning me on to it. Beautiful organ dynamics and playing throughout. '55 and '59 B3's; Leslies 147, 122, 21H; MODX 7+; NUMA Piano X 88; Motif XS7; Mellotrons M300 and M400; Wurlitzer 200; Gibson G101; Vox Continental; Mojo 61; Launchkey 88 Mk III; Korg Module Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B3 Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 What a great track! Thanks for turning me on to it. Beautiful organ dynamics and playing throughout. One of my favorites, definetly! My drawbars go to eleven. Gear: Roland VR-09, Nord Electro 2 61, Korg CX-3. Hear my music: facebook.com/smokestoneband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Sherry Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 And thanks for the discussion on who played. This got me looking at the credits for the album. Stainton played Piano on 4 tracks, Organ on 2 of those, co-wrote 3 tracks ( 5 if you include b-sides that are now included with the album ), and played bass on all but the first track ( Carol Kaye played Feelin' Alright ). And Jimmy Page played on half of the tracks. Tony Visconti was the Mix Engineer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelBLupowitz Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Thanks so much for sharing. Love this record, and what an all-star cast of musicians. Cool to hear that Chris Stainton played so much bass, too... I knew he was a bassist as well but didn't realize his playing populated so much of Joe Cocker's stuff. I'm a big Alan Spenner fan, so I'm always trying to suss out recordings he's laying it down on... Samuel B. Lupowitz Musician. Songwriter. Food Enthusiast. Bad Pun Aficionado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B3 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 Glad to know that this record has so many fans. Definetly one of my all time favorites. Blackbird is another great cut from the same album that moves me. Cool piano and organ on this (both n sound and playing): [video:youtube] My drawbars go to eleven. Gear: Roland VR-09, Nord Electro 2 61, Korg CX-3. Hear my music: facebook.com/smokestoneband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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