surfergirl Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I here the word hero applied to everything these days and it blows my mind, so I went looking for a guitar hero. Mine is Jason Everman. Jason has the distinction of having been kicked out of Nirvana and Soundgarden, he went on to become an Army Ranger and eventually a Green Bert and served in Afghanistan and Iraq. So Jason is my guitar hero. Jenny S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Well, what pushed the button...getting axed from those NW USA grunge-mongers or taking his axe to the Mid East instead of the Mid West. d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 "he·ro NOUN a person who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities." +1 The term hero does get thrown around a little too loosely. For the guitar heroes, I guess we could just call them legends. Having served in the Army Infantry in Vietnam, I've known a few I would call heroes here and there, but I don't consider myself one... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steevo Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Youve got your priorities lined up just right there surfergirl. Good for you. And Larryz, thank you for your service sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Well, "Guitar Hero" is a phrase used to describe a guitar player that many admire for their skill on the instrument, and that was the inspiration( one of them) for another's taking up the instrument, or aspiring to a particular style or genre. And you're right about one thing... "Hero" is a word that's bandied about too easily and glibly these days. A person need do nothing more than than be or have been in the military to be considered a "hero". Like another buddy of mine, who was once in the AIR FORCE, but when people find out they STILL say, "Thank you for your service." Cracks him up. Spent all of his hitch as a FILE CLERK in Oregon somewhere. But it seems that at least YOUR "guitar hero" actually more fits the bill. Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Thanks Steevo! @ Fang, don't forget to crack your buddy up once in awhile. All Veterans and active military deserve our thanks no matter where they served or what duty they performed at home or abroad. I appreciate all of our 1st responders here at home firemen, police, paramedics, search and rescue, etc. too. +1 Guitar Hero is a term we use to appreciate those that inspire us. Not to be confused with real heroes that made the ultimate sacrifice. A good teacher can be a hero to a student too, even though they were never famous... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Physical love & devotion is great but we mustn't discount the value of those who keep our spirits alive. Dreams. Peace. Freedom. [video:youtube] [video:youtube] [video:youtube] d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Dan Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 My eyes aren't that great these days and for a second, I thought the thread title was Guitar Herpes. That conjured some disturbing thoughts. Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Like another buddy of mine, who was once in the AIR FORCE, but when people find out they STILL say, "Thank you for your service." Cracks him up. Spent all of his hitch as a FILE CLERK in Oregon somewhere. Not all the jobs in the military are heroic, but they still need doing. I have a bunch of family and friends who have served or are serving, in every branch. MDs, surgical techs, MPs, tank commanders, computer specialists, SEALs, Rangers... I thank them all, heroes or not. (Heck, I dont care if youre a bigot or otherwise a vile human being: if you served the country with distinction or merely just well, you deserve my thanks at least for that.) Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Well, I suppose a lot of erzatz, pseudo sincerity as a "trend" IS much better than the undeserved vitriol most of the returning VIET NAM vets received.(You know, the "baby killer" nonsense and all....) Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 My eyes aren't that great these days and for a second, I thought the thread title was Guitar Herpes. That conjured some disturbing thoughts. Sounds like a 1960s throwback ! d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 (Heck, I dont care if youre a bigot or otherwise a vile human being: if you served the country with distinction or merely just well, you deserve my thanks at least for that.) Well, I suppose a lot of erzatz, pseudo sincerity as a "trend" IS much better than the undeserved vitriol most of the returning VIET NAM vets received.(You know, the "baby killer" nonsense and all....) WellI knew some cats in VN. The pix they had weren't good to see. Abusers deserve abuse...which is why we sometimes can't avoid war. All war is bad although some may be necessary. I doubt there's ever been one that didn't entail vile behaviour. I'd hope we get back to a better, more appropriate subject. [video:youtube] [video:youtube] I'd hope we get back to a better, more uplifting subject. d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Abusers deserve abuse Can't argue with that, but I was mostly referring to those that had abuse heaped on them and didn't really deserve it. Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Well, what pushed the button...getting axed from those NW USA grunge-mongers or taking his axe to the Mid East instead of the Mid West. There was a great article, written by a fellow musician, about him. He always stood out in the Seattle music scene because he was a no nonsense kind of guy and had a stash of cash from working on fishing boats in Alaska (he paid for the recording of Nirvana's first record, which is why they invited him to be in the band)... but when they went on tour... after a couple of days he would not speak to anyone else, and just became this cloud of doom that miserably brooded in the corner of the van or dressing room. Nirvana "broke up" towards the end of a tour to ditch him... Soundgarden tried to talk to him but couldn't. He's just one of those people who found he was happier in a disciplined military environment with formal interactions and now mostly lives off in a cabin by himself (he was finishing college when the article was written)... And that's how bands go... I've gone on the road in even short weekend tours to find that I'm the only super outgoing and talkative extrovert in that band and that I drive everybody else nuts, instantly, and they feel like I dominate the environment too much... or that it's a band of people who are outgoing like me except for one guy who is an introvert and it's torture for them to be in a van with our talking, joking and laughing the entire time... Peter Buck and Michael Stipe were best friends at the inception of R.E.M., but due to the fact that Buck is super extroverted and Stipe is incredibly introverted they had to travel separately and stay apart offstage once the band got big. I suspect most "superstar"-level acts end up with something like that... bands are tough to keep together... people are difficult things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Yeah, and like Buck and Stipe, look at how The Beatles, once they got big, had supposedly close friends McCARTNEY and LENNON at each other's throats. "Bands are tough to keep together" for sure. But notice too.... Some great bands have broken up after a few short years, and other great bands are still together after 40-50 years. Gotta wonder what makes the difference. Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 One of my favorite bands is coming to town again and I'll be going to see them in our local venue this month. Asleep at the Wheel has been together since 1970 and the members have changed several times over the years. It's not always about guitar heroes. Although Ray Benson plays some good guitar, it's his vocals and star power personality that keeps the band alive. He's always had super musicians backing him up and playing a part in the band's history. But without Ray, the band would cease to exist. Just like without Mick Jagger the Stones would be in trouble. Without Paul or John the Beatles would be in trouble. There is a certain magic that keeps bands together and some can go on for decades. Without John Fogerty, CCR died off. But he can still show up at a concert and you would swear they were still alive! Money, tension, jealousy, love affairs, musicianship, drugs, booze, philosophy, etc., [insert issue] can easily break up a band We just have to enjoy them while we can. I would love to have seen Simon and Garfunkel stay together. I don't know what their issues were but I'm sure they do. My current guitar hero is one that I love seeing live on stage and that's Tommy Emmanuel. It's much easier to keep the band alive when it's just a solo act LOL! ps. another one I love going to see that has the magic touch is Chris Isaak. He plays a good guitar, but his band members, vocals, star power, etc., is what keeps them together since '85 or so. pss. For a country guy Marty Stuart and his Fabulous Superlatives are another band I have seen lately that I would love to see again. Marty is one of the best guitar pickers you will ever get a chance to hear. You just got to get out there and support your heroes/legends... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Fraser Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 close friends McCARTNEY and LENNON at each other's throats. Whitefang Like brothers. Speaking of which, Ray & Dave Davies' interaction is a good example of the difficulty of band relations, with the added complication of family ties. Scott Fraser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Some great bands have broken up after a few short years, and other great bands are still together after 40-50 years. Gotta wonder what makes the difference. I'd say, for the most part, that has to do w/commercial aspects. Certainly that's the only thing keeping the Rolling Stones in biz. Same likely w/the Who, later-day versions of major jazz bands, etc. d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Yeah, but see... SOME mentioned are cases in which it's the FRONTMAN who made whatever band famous. Like Chris Isaak. Yeah, the guy IS a good singer and guitar player, but me( and probably many others) never THINK of him in terms of his backing band. So personnel changes in that line-up really don't matter much for many of his fans because they ARE his fans. Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane hugo Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 [font:Comic Sans MS]Everman was never a full member of Soundgarden. He stepped in to cover bass duties for the band when Hiro quit right before the Louder Than Love tour started. He played the two months he agreed to and then bailed.[/font] http://blip.fm/invite/WorkRelease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caedmon Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Dave Gilmore. [video:youtube] Generally music feedeth that disposition of the spirits which it findeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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