Delta Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Specifically regarding guitar solos recorded by different well known players that sound eerily similar. My example (and I know there are many) is Clapton's excellent second solo on the the live version of Sitting On Top of the World from Cream's Goodbye album recorded in 68 and Carlos Santana's solo on Taboo from the Santana 3 album recorded in 71. I know that Carlos was very much influenced by Slowhand, so, there you go, I guess. Other examples out there? "Let me stand next to your fire!", Jimi Hendrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Well, y'know, the ONLY such comparison I can make would be the similarity in the sound of ROBIN TROWER to JIMI HENDRIX's sound. Mostly on the "Bridge Of Sighs" LP, incidentally, the only LP of his I ever had. Does a lot of Jimi's style as well too. Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbluesman Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Yep Robin Trower was heavily influenced by Jimi as were a host of others. So was Stevie Ray Vaughn on his covers of Jimi's work. Little Wing by Stevie; dbm If it sounds good, it is good !! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=143231&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 +1,000 on Jimi and Stevie Ray! And I'll throw in Chet Atkins, Merle Travis, Jerry Reed and Tommy Emmanuel. Then another super close match up would be The Ventures and The Shadows! Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Moving past the general idea that there's a similarilty in various players's styles or overall sounds, could you point out specifically which sections you mean, Delta ? I listened several times but couldn't find the connection then I hadda give my ears a break I return to task later but maybe y'can shorten the search ? Clapton intro / 0:00~0:40 solo / 2:00~2:38 / 2nd chorus 2:39~3:55ish Santana intro / 0:00~0:55 solo choruses / 2:00~2:30 / 2:31~3:02 / 3:03~3:16 outro solo (vamp over turnaround) / 4:00~5:11 / followed by "the calm aft the storm". d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 A fair enough question, and I considerate it a challenge. I'll get back to you on that. "Let me stand next to your fire!", Jimi Hendrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Yep Robin Trower was heavily influenced by Jimi as were a host of others. So was Stevie Ray Vaughn on his covers of Jimi's work. Yeah, but there IS quite a difference when "copping" somebody else's sound and style while "covering" one of their tunes, and doing so for anything else you play. I think THAT was what the OP is lookin' for..... Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Not a solo, but the guitar "hook" at the end of the chorus in The Cars' "Best Friend's Girl" is the same riff as The Beatles' "I Will." And I never thought about that until a video interview where the interviewer told Easton it was a brilliant riff and he laughed and said "It is... it's 'I Will' from the White Album" and played it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocPate Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 John McLaughlin sounds like "NOONE" else! But there are so many guitarists out there trying hard to get close to his sound. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 A fair enough question, and I considerate it a challenge. I'll get back to you on that. ?? What challenge ? You cited this as an example of one track resembling the other. I'm just asking where the resemblance is. :idk d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Well d, you asked me a question and I wanted to give an informed answer regarding the exact time windows I'm talking about. I was playing my classic rock playlist a couple of nights ago and Taboo came on and I had that moment that one gets at times when listening to music. As the song wound down towards the end with Carlo's solo it hit me that it sounded almost identical to the Clapton solo I mentioned. Keep in mind that I hadn't heard Taboo in a long time, nor have I heard the Cream track I mentioned for quite some time. I have a very good ear however and I know of what I speak. When I get time, I'll listen to both tracks and convey the info you asked for. In meantime, I'm surprised you didn't pick it up after listening to the 2 tracks. Maybe your musical ear wasn't working at the time, but to me it's quite obvious. "Let me stand next to your fire!", Jimi Hendrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Not a solo exactly, but it stuck me a long time ago that the main riff from this song... [video:youtube] ...was pretty much picked up and dropped into this song, starting at 0:29... [video:youtube] Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Spot, on there, Skip, although to me that's bumpin' © infringement more than how I interpreted Delta's OP. I read that the Kansas release followed the Journey one by almost a year, but was (per WikiP) recorded before the Journey release. :idk At least it seems an example of specific copying rather than the vague stylistic influences being cited. Here's a similar, uh, confluence of great minds. Chk the riff at 1:51+ [video:youtube] Gordon musta fallen asleep more than once listening to this stoner mainstay. [dial up 1:08] [video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgin8sERxdM ------------------------------------------------------------------- Maybe your musical ear wasn't working at the time, but to me it's quite obvious. I'm not saying there aren't similarities but that I didn't hear them specifically yet. Here's what I did: Pulled 'em both up on YTube, then listened to each to chk the event times, auditing EC 1st. Listening to the Santana track I noticed the better overall sound & the more focused playing along w/the standard blues-rock lick vocabulary both shared. Then i went back to chk the sections you, not so specifically, mentioned...but aft going back & forth for several times I didn't spot the direct connection &, frankly, got more an earache than anything else, although I did notice a rare moment when the members of Cream, while playing live, were actually listening & responding to one another (in a few places they all get into an insistent 12/8 thing). [To avoid to much reiteration here, please chk yer PMs for more detailed comments] d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Not a solo exactly, but it stuck me a long time ago that the main riff from this song... [video:youtube] ...was pretty much picked up and dropped into this song, starting at 0:29... [video:youtube] Absolutely identical! Wayward made Kansas a ton of money. The Journey number-0. Of course we all know that things got much better for Journey later. "Let me stand next to your fire!", Jimi Hendrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Funny thing.... Both KANSAS and JOURNEY started out around the same time, and too, reached commercial and financial success around the same time too. The sad thing is, I couldn't get to compare the clips in order to make whatever comparison y'alls talkin' 'bout. Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Here's one I shoulda noticed yrs ago but hadn't til speaking w/Delta abt this subject. This is a standard blues, although I picked a somewhat offtrack version of it b/c of Wolf's perf, followed by, what I think's the orig. [video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXRrchuXHrM [video:youtube] Now dig this quasi-gospel tune from another great practitioner. I guess it was the context but I never even noticed the influence til yesterday [video:youtube] Of course, now I gotta consider whether Walter Vinson and Lonnie Chatmon got this tune from some old gospel song. :idk Like this one [video:youtube] d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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