zeronyne Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 In my continuing search for a simplified, affordable keyboard to control an Integra (among many other things, but I would really like to able to gig easily with just a lightweight board and the Integra on very rare occasions.) but also has decent sounds, I've come across the KingKorg. If anyone owns one, I have a few quick questions. 1) I know the keys do not have aftertouch, but is the action decent? 2) Have you managed to find a cable for the 4 pin CV/Gate to use with Eurorack? 3) Do you like it? "For instance" is not proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Piano Man Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 In my continuing search for a simplified, affordable keyboard to control an Integra (among many other things, but I would really like to able to gig easily with just a lightweight board and the Integra on very rare occasions.) but also has decent sounds, I've come across the KingKorg. If anyone owns one, I have a few quick questions. 1) I know the keys do not have aftertouch, but is the action decent? 2) Have you managed to find a cable for the 4 pin CV/Gate to use with Eurorack? 3) Do you like it? 1) no 2) no 3) no I really dont think it is a good choice as a controller. The keyboard action is plastic and flimsy. I would say second hand might be the way to go. If you want a Korg, the Triton or M3 would be a better option in my opinion. Kurzweil PC3x Technics SX-P50 Korg X3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeronyne Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 Thanks. That was what I was afraid of. It was just so inexpensive second hand, I was suspicious (it's still under warranty). "For instance" is not proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoGuyPan Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Trying to use King Korg as a controller... hahahahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyS Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 If you see Cory Henry pull of the Lingus solo on it, it doesnt look like crap! But I agree with the piano man. Played it in a store one time. I really dont like the action! Rudy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 King Korg has the typical current low-end Korg action, where there is a lot of resistance toward the rear of the keys, How much it affects you depends on how you play and how velocity-dependent your sounds are. I think it's among the best VAs in terms of sonic characteristics. Control can be a bit awkward, as there is more menu diving than you might expect, including having to hold a button with one hand while turning a dial with the other, leaving you playing with your nose. ;-) There's a cool iPad app, though, called Patch Morpher, that gives you easier access to a wider range of possibilities. As an Integra controller, if possible I would look for a board wth 16 front panel buttons that can be used to select the 16 MIDI transmission channels. That would give you easy, instant access to the 16 sounds in an Integra Studio Set. Some moderately priced and reasonably lightweight boards that should do this include Korg Microstation/Kross/Kross2, Kurzweil SP4/Artis 7, Yamaha MX/MOX/MOXF, maybe Roland FA. Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyNQ Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I own one and gig it regularly. It is an excellent VA synth. It would not be my choice as a midi controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throbert Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 All synth action keybeds have plastic keys, guess dumb ass hasn't figured that out yet. Korg used to have great synth action keybeds that came from Yamaha, but since the little idiot what's his face, took over they're all crap now. They have no clue what a good synth action keybed should be and don't seem to think they should be any longer than 61 keys. Triton Extreme 76, Kawai ES3, GEM-RPX, HX3/Drawbar control, MSI Z97 MPower/4790K, Lynx Aurora 8/MADI/AES16e, OP-X PRO, Ptec, Komplete. Ashley MX-206. future MOTU M64 RME Digiface Dante for Mon./net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Dan Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Tell us what you really think, LOL! Agreed on most parts though. I mean plastic is plastic but there is still a wide variety. I still own an Triton Pro and despite having one broken key, always felt it was a decent action. The felt wore out to the point that in my practice space, the click of the keys are audible over my monitoring. Not a stage problem, though. I'm happy with the Kronos Action. Prior to all this my Roland JV-30 was horrible. Not necessarily horrible to play but I broke Keys left and right. XP-50 seemed better. Alexis Fusion was supposed to be "semi-weighted". It was solid but a bit sluggish and I never really liked it. I still use A70. I used to love it but like it less and less as time goes on. My biggest problem I think is the shallow throw of the keys. Just bothers me. Hey Throbert - what part of CO? I'm frequently in Boulder (Flying in/out of Denver, which is of course not actually Denver, LOL) Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonglow Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I still use A70. I used to love it but like it less and less as time goes on. My biggest problem I think is the shallow throw of the keys. Just bothers me. Dan, Ive always wondered about the A70 in your rig. I know its a fantastic MIDI controller, but why not something that reasonably satisfies this requirement and makes its own sounds (a Kurzweil initially comes to mind)? In addition to providing another sonic palette, you would have a backup in case your K61 goes to the zoo on a gig. I apologize for the de-rail. "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throbert Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Hey Throbert - what part of CO? I'm frequently in Boulder (Flying in/out of Denver, which is of course not actually Denver, LOL) North west, not far from the turnpike. DIA used to be Aroura, but Pena made money with some screwy deal and got the area annexed into Denver when Stapleton was the IA. I went to Avionics and A&P school here and was working on my multi commercial before I lost my med. I've flown all over this damn place from here out to the west coast, but I'm not gettin into one of those sardine cans to go any where. Triton Extreme 76, Kawai ES3, GEM-RPX, HX3/Drawbar control, MSI Z97 MPower/4790K, Lynx Aurora 8/MADI/AES16e, OP-X PRO, Ptec, Komplete. Ashley MX-206. future MOTU M64 RME Digiface Dante for Mon./net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 King Korg is one of those instruments I would have loved to see in tabletop format. I guess the market research didn't support it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 King Korg is one of those instruments I would have loved to see in tabletop format. I guess the market research didn't support it.... Yeah... a fantastic synth coupled to the worst action I've ever experienced on a keyboard costing over $1000. A real shame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 While I wouldn't use a KingKorg as a controller, it is a fine VA synth. Try not to fall into the typical group think here, and try one out for yourself to see how the keys feel to you. I've spent a lot of time with one. I also used to own a Krome, which apparently has keys everyone here hates I had no issues with either. Personally I think talk of keybeds is much too subjective. One one like, another doesn't. Both are valid opinions. David Gig Rig:Roland Fantom-08| Yamaha MODX+ 6 | MacBook Pro 14" M1| Mainstage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeronyne Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 Thanks for all the responses. To be clear, I have a weighted controller (Triton Pro X) and an NI Kontrol 61, but I wanted a keyboard that I could take out with just the Integra but also had some sounds. I didn't want to spend a lot of money on this or I would just get a Montage or Kronos instead of the Controller/Integra setup. The search continues. "For instance" is not proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffincltnc Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Studiologic Sledge 2.0 Black might check the boxes here and looks good. It's a little bulky front to back, but has a nice Fatar TP9s action. I would take this over a King Korg for sure. Yamaha U1 Upright, Roland Fantom 8, Nord Stage 4 HA73, Nord Wave 2, Korg Nautilus 73, Viscount Legend Live, Lots of Mainstage/VST Libraries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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