BluMunk Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I'm looking for a 2-channel max mixer splitter, with two separately controlled output busses that is small enough to sit on top of the battery compartment of my PX-5s. Does such a thing exist? Basically, I'm looking for a super-convenient way to have separate volume controls for signal to my monitors as well as signal to FOH. In this application, I will only ever have 2 sound sources at the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnchop Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Is the Yamaha MG06 too big? Soundcraft Notepad 5? Although it has RCA jacks for one of the inputs. I make software noises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 He may be looking for something the size of an ART Mini Mix (there are several configurations), but I don't see one that is precisely 2 line in x 2 separate outputs - that doesn't go RCA for one of the outs, ins, or similar. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Completely OT, but I would like to thank the OP for putting, "Hold me closer, tiny mixer" into my spongey brain. Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluMunk Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 The Soundcraft looks like the right feature set, but it's a little big. Spending some more time hunting around, this looks like it might fit the bill exactly: http://artproaudio.com/mixers/product/splitmix4/ Anyone out there have experience with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluMunk Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 It's passive; I think that fundamentally that means, that the FOH signal will be at the same level as if I was sending it direct out the back of the keyboard, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluMunk Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 Completely OT, but I would like to thank the OP for putting, "Hold me closer, tiny mixer" into my spongey brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Dan Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 You won't be able to get separate output mixes with that. Also being passive, it will attenuate your signal unless all of the knobs are all the way up. Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Could you split each of your channels into a "to-FOH" and "to-monitor" version, each carrying an identical signal? Then you could use that ART mixer that BluMunk posted, with two knobs for FOH and two more for monitor? Cheers, Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Dan Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Could you split each of your channels into a "to-FOH" and "to-monitor" version, each carrying an identical signal? Then you could use that ART mixer that BluMunk posted, with two knobs for FOH and two more for monitor? Cheers, Mike. That's more or less what I do. If you don't need to submix what goes to FOH this is the best solution. I do this with my keyboard and guitar. I go into a Radial dual channel DI, which sends the signals to FOH using my Kronos and Pod volumes which are set at sound check. I loop the 2 channels out of the DI into this: Which then feeds channel 2 of my K10. My microphone goes through Ch 1 of the K10 and then out to FOH. Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedKey Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Overkill? 'cause it checks all of your boxes and will long outlive your current rig. http://www.futuremusic.com/news/images/Radical-keylargo-FutureMusic.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveQB Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Love the Key Largo. For a piece of equipment I barely touch, its probably one of the most useful things in my rig Nord Stage 2EX | Nord Wave | Mainstage 3 K&M Spider Pro | JH Audio JH5 IEMs | Behringer XR18 | Radial Keylargo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnchop Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Almost suggested the Key Largo but I was being cheap. I make software noises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Rolls mx28. Three channel mixer but it is tiny. Has a master output and a headphone output which can be used like a monitor out. link 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKittel Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Mackie 402, small and sturdy, 3 stereo channels, good sound quality. Can be found used for 50 bucks. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/402VLZ4 LIFE IS SHORT, GO GET THE GEAR YOU WANT ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Dan Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 None of these suggestions provide 2 separate mixes, except the Key Largo if you use the effects send as one of the mix outs (monitor out will be same mix as main out) Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardware Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Rolls mx28. Three channel mixer but it is tiny. Has a master output and a headphone output which can be used like a monitor out. link I have a few Rolls Mixers. Bought the 1U for a drum submix as inserts are vital for comps/Gates. Liked its quality so I bought a 4 x 2 Pedal w/ 9volt. Transparent, no colorization. Another 2 x 4. Magnus C350 + FMR RNP + Realistic Unisphere Mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymb1 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I've been using a Beringer Xenyx 802 for awhile. Does the job for me and it sits on top of the battery compartment. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/802 Casio PX5s, XWP1 and CPS SSV3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowMan Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Rolls mx28. Three channel mixer but it is tiny. Has a master output and a headphone output which can be used like a monitor out. link This is exactly what I use for the same purpose... - 1/4" stereo outs on back go to a Radial Stereo DI to FOH - 1/4" stereo headphone jack with separate VOL control on front feeds 1/4" Y cable (TRS TO Dual TR) cables into my two monitor wedges. And if I use IEMs, I use the 1/8" stereo headphone jack on front to hear myself (over ambient stage sound) I keep a spare one in my back-up bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 None of these suggestions provide 2 separate mixes, except the Key Largo if you use the effects send as one of the mix outs (monitor out will be same mix as main out) Hmmm.. Rolls mx28. Three channel mixer but it is tiny. Has a master output and a headphone output which can be used like a monitor out. link This is exactly what I use for the same purpose... - 1/4" stereo outs on back go to a Radial Stereo DI to FOH - 1/4" stereo headphone jack with separate VOL control on front feeds 1/4" Y cable (TRS TO Dual TR) cables into my two monitor wedges. And if I use IEMs, I use the 1/8" stereo headphone jack on front to hear myself (over ambient stage sound) I keep a spare one in my back-up bag. It's also how I use mine in the studio at home. I've also gigged this way, sending the master output to a DI to FOH and headphone jack to a DI to my monitor so it IS a viable solution. Granted, you can't have a different sound level mix separately for FOH and monitors but my theory has always been that once I balance the mix between the two keyboards in my monitor there should be no logical reason why FOH would want a different balance between the two keyboards. 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Rolls mx28. Three channel mixer but it is tiny. Has a master output and a headphone output which can be used like a monitor out. link This is exactly what I use for the same purpose... - 1/4" stereo outs on back go to a Radial Stereo DI to FOH - 1/4" stereo headphone jack with separate VOL control on front feeds 1/4" Y cable (TRS TO Dual TR) cables into my two monitor wedges. And if I use IEMs, I use the 1/8" stereo headphone jack on front to hear myself (over ambient stage sound) I keep a spare one in my back-up bag. This is exactly what I do, as well, when playing with two or more sound sources. The MX-28 is a great deal, at around $75; it's very transparent, sound-wise. If I hadn't already owned the Radial D2, I would've checked out the Key Largo. Looks like a pretty sweet piece of kit. 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
area51recording Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I use the Yamaha MC06 in just this way. More often it goes on top of my Nord E3, but I've put it on the battery comapartment of the Px5S when doing a single keyboard gig. Usually I DI both keyboards before the mixer, and use splitters for my vocal and sax mics. In this way the sound guys have independent control over everything, and the mixer simply takes care of what I'm hearing thru my stage monitor.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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