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Nominations for Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's Class of 2017


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the list includes Pearl Jam, Tupac Shakur, Depeche Mode, Electric Light Orchestra, Jane's Addiction, Janet Jackson, Journey, the Cars, the Zombies and Yes. The rest of this year's hopefuls are Bad Brains, Chaka Khan, Chic, J. Geils Band, Joan Baez, Joe Tex, Kraftwerk, MC5 and Steppenwolf.

This thread gets people riled up every year. :keys:

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I wouldnt p!$$ on that place if it was on fire.

 

I wouldn't call it a taxi to take it to hell.

 

Again: no Jethro Tull, Kansas, Bad Company, ELP.

 

But Tupac, Janet Jackson and Bad Brains get nominations. Lordy.

The fact there's a Highway To Hell and only a Stairway To Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic numbers

 

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Dunno why we get wound up by the HoF. While Ahmet's intentions may have purely altruistic at the outset it has morphed to the point where commercial interest come first.

 

Great for those who are inducted, and induction may help revive the odd career, but meaningless as a measure of the contribution of artists in shaping contemporary music since the 50's.

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It's just a time to celebrate old musicians, from all walks of popular music, those that get their panties tight about it not all being "Rock n Roll" are being silly.

 

I like all the picks, I don't care about all the accolades but enjoy the show and the music.

 

 

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I got sucked into this 2 years ago voting for Yes.

 

I may or may not bother this time, but there is at least a somewhat interesting twist this year.

 

Since a lot of bands have had multiple members, and different singers etc. this time they are nominating specific lineups.

For Yes it basically the "Union" line up:

Vocals - Jon Anderson

Bass - the late Chris Squire

Drums - Bill Bruford, Alan White

Guitar - Steve Howe, Trevor Rabin

Keyboards - Tony Kaye, Rick Wakeman

 

I actually agree with this. The current official Yes line up has only two of those people. Anderson Rabin Wakeman are on tour right now and of course have three.

I think an argument could be made for Patrick Moraz being included, he only played on one Yes album but it was an important one.

 

Others like vocalists Jon Davison, Benoit David and Trevor Horn, and keyboardists like Igor Koroshev, Tom Brislin, Oliver Wakeman and Geof Downes and bassist Billy Sherwood were not part of the band for any of it's important works.

 

I think other bands will be treated similarly.

 

 

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There are still a few bands from the 60's and 70's who should be inducted while most of the members are still alive. If the Dave Clark Five had been inducted a year earlier all original members could have been there. If they had inducted Deep Purple a few years earlier we would have had Jon Lord and maybe Ritchie Blackmore in attendance. One more year can make a big difference with aging classic bands. Currently these bands are mostly intact:

 

The Zombies. Original guitarist Paul Atkinson passed away many years ago.

 

The Moody Blues. All the important members are still alive.

 

Jethro Tull has lost only Glenn Cornick from their classic line-up.

 

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I drove past it daily for about 10 years but only went inside once, for a company event. It wasn't too bad. I got to see some of Hunter S. Thompson's Fear and Loathing manuscript, Muddy Waters and Albert Collins' Telecasters and enough stage outfits to realize the majority of classic rock's lead vocalists are short, scrawny dudes.

 

As for the nominations, I typically remember that there is a nominating committee principally made up of music journalists (several of whom struck me as being both failed musicians and failed writers) with a mix of others. And, given that the whole rock & roll idea was kind of a departure from things that have hall of fame nominating committees, I've never been particularly filled with rage nor elated at any of the nominations nor inductions.

 

But maybe we'll have a mashup of "Autobahn," "Even Flow" and "Stop the Gunfight" at the concert.

 

 

(As an aside, there are quite a few synth heavy artists on that list).

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Since Santana has already been inducted, if Journey gets in, Gregg Rolie will be in two R-N-R HOF bands, right? Kinda cool. Has this previously occurred...with a keyboard player?

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I have a hard time with someone being that critical of the total history of "Yes". While the later stuff does not move me (i.e. "Owner of a Lonely Heart"), I have listened many times to three early albums (The Yes Album, Fragile, Close to the Edge). I not only enjoy these, but consider them to be special and noteworthy.

 

I think this is part of larger habit that certain Rock and Roll critics have. I have a copy of the Second Edition (1983) of the "Rolling Stone Record Guide". Its ratings (out of 5 stars) for these three albums were:

The Yes Album - 2 stars

Fragile - 3 stars

Close to the Edge - 3 stars

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I heard an interview with Geoff Downes on a Chicago classic rock station driving in to work this morning. When asked about Yes being nominated for the HOF, his immediate reply was something like, "Well, what about Emerson, Lake, and Palmer, or King Crimson, or Jethro Tull? Those guys paved the way for the rest of us." Classy response.

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Thanks. I never heard of them but I'm just a farm boy from Illinois.

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Dunno why we get wound up by the HoF. While Ahmet's intentions may have purely altruistic at the outset it has morphed to the point where commercial interest come first.

 

Great for those who are inducted, and induction may help revive the odd career, but meaningless as a measure of the contribution of artists in shaping contemporary music since the 50's.

 

Don't you mean Jann Wenner of Rolling Stone? I wasn't aware that Ahmet Ertegun was involved.

The fact there's a Highway To Hell and only a Stairway To Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic numbers

 

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I've played with members of two of those bands. Does that mean if they get in I am in by default?
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Ive never heard of bad brain,, but there's alot to like in the list overall. I think some of us make to much of it, resulting in emotions ranging from antipathy to disgust to anger to loathing to despondency. It's just a hall run by certain individuals, ... ain't no thing.

 

Cars, Journey, Janet, ELO, Yes ... Jane's, J G, ... all interesting artists who made a mark large or small. Still no idea who bad brain is. but what the heck, lets party.

 

 

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I've played with members of two of those bands. Does that mean if they get in I am in by default?

 

Seems right to me. at the very least, we can honorably mention your here within KC.

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Dunno why we get wound up by the HoF. While Ahmet's intentions may have purely altruistic at the outset it has morphed to the point where commercial interest come first.

 

Great for those who are inducted, and induction may help revive the odd career, but meaningless as a measure of the contribution of artists in shaping contemporary music since the 50's.

 

Don't you mean Jann Wenner of Rolling Stone? I wasn't aware that Ahmet Ertegun was involved.

 

"Founder Ahmet Ertegun assembled a team that included attorney Suzan Evans, Rolling Stone magazine editor and publisher Jann S. Wenner, attorney Allen Grubman, and record executives Seymour Stein, Bob Krasnow, and Noreen Woods."

 

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