I-missRichardTee Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Speaking of the traditional song I always criticized a singer in a band who dictated her key for this song. Reason... it's not about a singers perfect range.. but in the most comfortable key for a crowd. My whole life I found the key of G to be the standard. Tonight, and older player than me, said Key of C or Bb. So what is your take on its key? You don't have ideas, ideas have you We see the world, not as it is, but as we are. "One mans food is another mans poison". I defend your right to speak hate. Tolerance to a point, not agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Stirling Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 The original Hill score of "Good Morning to All" is in G (I think!) ;-) Rick Stirling ============= Korg Kronos 2, Korg PA600, MZ-X500, AKAI MPD32, M-Audio Oxygen 25, ZOOM H6, Cakewalk Sonar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveQB Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I have always known it to be in G Nord Stage 2EX | Nord Wave | Mainstage 3 K&M Spider Pro | JH Audio JH5 IEMs | Behringer XR18 | Radial Keylargo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Happy Birthday is usually sung in several keys, simultaneously.. 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluMunk Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I play this multiple times a year; whenever I'm rehearsing a show and a cast member has a birthday. I always play it in F. That way the melody sits between C and C; totally accessible to all vocalists. And, it's low enough that show-off sopranos can harmonize on the F or A above on the final note, without hurting my ears too badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Wright Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Happy Birthday is usually sung in several keys, simultaneously.. "I cried when I wrote this song Sue me if I play too long" Walter Becker Donald Fagan 1977 Deacon Blues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulceLabs.com Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Happy Birthday is usually sung in several keys, simultaneously.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny. Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I play this multiple times a year; whenever I'm rehearsing a show and a cast member has a birthday. I always play it in F. That way the melody sits between C and C; totally accessible to all vocalists. And, it's low enough that show-off sopranos can harmonize on the F or A above on the final note, without hurting my ears too badly. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Another F-ing adherent here. Studio: Yamaha P515 | Yamaha Tyros 5 | Yamaha HX1 | Moog Sub 37 Road: Yamaha YC88 | Nord Electro 5D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMcM Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Happy Birthday is usually sung in several keys, simultaneously.. He shoots, he scores! Wm. David McMahan I Play, Therefore I Am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 He shoots, he scores! http://www.netanimations.net/SUPERMAN.gif When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Happy Birthday is usually sung in several keys, simultaneously.. ^^^^ and then some Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Happy Birthday is usually sung in several keys, simultaneously.. Some in scales other than the western 12-tone scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 IN D for the crowd Find 660 of my jazz piano arrangements of standards for educational purposes and tutorials at www.Patreon.com/HarryLikas Harry was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 D, Db or Eb is best range compromise for the average crowd of amateurs. G is not good for an avergae singer's range Find 660 of my jazz piano arrangements of standards for educational purposes and tutorials at www.Patreon.com/HarryLikas Harry was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Lobo Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Next question: what are the chord changes for Happy Birthday? These are only my opinions, not supported by any actual knowledge, experience, or expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 It's a Gmin7. Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sospiri Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 It was originally written in G, but who on earth uses dots for this? In all my years of performing, all of my peers did it in F and the same for Auld Lang Syne. The only thing that didn't move out of G was the National Anthem (God Save The Queen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Beaumont Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I don't care but the guitarist is adamant we play it in E Boards: Kurzweil SP-6, Roland FA-08, VR-09, DeepMind 12 Modules: Korg Radias, Roland D-05, Bk7-m & Sonic Cell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I play it in F and it does seem like it's good range for most people! I'll play it in any key I have to though! CP-50, YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, Kurzweil SP6, XK-3, CX-3, Hammond XK-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
area51recording Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Speaking of the traditional song I always criticized a singer in a band who dictated her key for this song. Reason... it's not about a singers perfect range.. but in the most comfortable key for a crowd. My whole life I found the key of G to be the standard. Tonight, and older player than me, said Key of C or Bb. So what is your take on its key? .......for reals? OK, I'll play. If I sing it then I play it in G....If I'm playing for a chick singer they usually want it in C ish.....unless we're going righty into Sweet Home Alabama.....in that case, C#.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clpete Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Our guitar player does it in C. I thought it odd when he played it the first time. I would think this would actually be a better key for most female voices. Before this band, I had only done it in G. I would rather do the Beatles thing, but we don't. We play for free. We get paid to set up and tear down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 D, Db or Eb is best range compromise for the average crowd of amateurs. G is not good for an avergae singer's range +1 I've done Eb for the last 10 years. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-missRichardTee Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 Funny.. the mish mash of quarter tone eighth tone But it is actually a phenom of human nature after the initial multiple key centers well off our 440- 444 A Don't you find that the key center becomes more defined? Any who I have done it in F and Eb So how many of you think the usually female singers wish to be in her best key, is not as important as a generally good key for most audiences of mixed gender? I think I will consider F as the maybe better key, than G. Chords! If any of you play it with a diminished chord... I would substitute a minor chord instead. In the easiest key Happy ( G7 ) C// G// G// C// C// F(#4)F Fm6 C/G / G7 C// Sorry I cannot do better with the symbols on my mac Some guitarist have played F# dim where it does not fit. You don't have ideas, ideas have you We see the world, not as it is, but as we are. "One mans food is another mans poison". I defend your right to speak hate. Tolerance to a point, not agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane hugo Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Happy Birthday is usually sung in several keys, simultaneously.. yep. totes ripping off Ives. http://blip.fm/invite/WorkRelease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwin Funster Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Im guessing most traditional melodies were originally plinked out on white keys by non accomplished composers. Therefore there is a possibilty that Happy Birthday was first in C maj then transposed into the singers key of choice. If i sing it from memory then go to a guitar i have sitting here it turns out that i start to sing it in exactly the key of A maj. Just a guess. FunMachine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 The only thing that didn't move out of G was the National Anthem (God Save The Queen). A fellow keyboardist friend of mine once did a gig in a very uptight and traditional ex-servicemen's club, and at the end of some long speech the guy doing the honours turned to my pal, eyeballed him and said: "We will now sing the National Anthem..." My friend had a total brain melt and found himself beginning to play...Happy Birthday. He tried to limit the damage (not entirely successfully) by singing along: "Happy birthday....the QUEEN..." Studio: Yamaha P515 | Yamaha Tyros 5 | Yamaha HX1 | Moog Sub 37 Road: Yamaha YC88 | Nord Electro 5D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Happy Birthday is usually sung in several keys, simultaneously.. HAH! In the key of H, as a rule, especially when Aunt Velma chimes in. That woman can peel paint from a boat from 15 miles away. People who sing microtonally should be slapped, Charlie Chaplin style. "Why can't they just make up something of their own?" ~ The great Richard Matheson, on the movie remakes of his book, "I Am Legend" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Spencer Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 ..... Happy ( G7 ) C// G// G// C// C// F(#4)F Fm6 C/G / G7 C// ... Wow, don't think the minor iv chord works, as the melody is on the 6th of the scale, major 3rd of that IV chord. People like to hang on to that note, which is why many of us then put the #iv dim 7 chord there for a little more tension before the final cadence. However niether chord really is correct there, as the next melody note is the 4th step, which doesn't work with the #iv dim. Hmm- I'm gonna leave that IV chord alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Spencer Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Happy Birthday is usually sung in several keys, simultaneously.. HAH! In the key of H, It's traditionally in the key of L, at least it usually sounds like L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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